Excessive site fees
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Where unless there are a couple of cancelations it was found either of the mentioned sites had vacancies as they are full at w/ends except sundays which most site will show pitches as that is the day most pitches become vacant,and as for "tired" that does not seem to be the concesus of the majority of reviews over the whole network which has a rolling programme of upgrades ,but then with both clubs each having far more sites than any other organisation,who use other income to sustain their few sites and use loss leaders off peak, to the detriment of families at peak times,where as both major clubs(site operators) do not subsidise the mostley well off users at off peak times
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One of my Husbands biggest complaint of CC facilities is that they feel cramped with narrow corridors with twist and turns. I appreciate the smallness of the facilities is probably because of the need to heat the block but they do not compare well with
many sites we have visited abroad. In this case a comparison with abroad is IMO validP.S I only have the one husband
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One of my Husbands biggest complaint of CC facilities is that they feel cramped with narrow corridors with twist and turns. I appreciate the smallness of the facilities is probably because of the need to heat the block but they do not compare well with many sites we have visited abroad. In this case a comparison with abroad is IMO valid
P.S I only have the one husband
...but does he have a Natasha1?
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And just to explain my last post (because some seem to have a problem with reading earlier explanations
).......I have no problem with a 3
star rating, because star ratings represent the facilties provided.I have no need for pools, bars, restaurants, play areas, slot machine arcades etc. But if they aren't provided (as they aren't on most CC sites) and the investment hasn't been made in any more than a level field with hardstanding pitches and toilet blocks,
then I don't see why I should be paying for them.As I keep saying, the CC charge 5 star prices for 3 star facilities.
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then don't go, so simple
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Again, as I have said many times, I have reduced the number of times I use CC sites considerably.....at a time when we are taking more and more holidays in the caravan.
I feel that this (together with explaining my actions on here) is somewhat better than to simply keep paying the ever increasing (and now well out of all poportion) charges.
But I guess it still takes some people a long while to see the obvious.......?
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And just to explain my last post (because some seem to have a problem with reading earlier explanations
).......I have no problem with a 3 star rating, because star ratings represent the facilties provided.I have no need for pools, bars, restaurants, play areas, slot machine arcades etc. But if they aren't provided (as they aren't on most CC sites) and the investment hasn't been made in any more than a level field with hardstanding pitches and toilet blocks, then I don't see why I should be paying for them.
As I keep saying, the CC charge 5 star prices for 3 star facilities.
but the overall star ratings for the CC sites (see the site info pages) do not represent facilities offered like those attributed to hotels! They are an overall rating of a visitor's experience!
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I wonder if there is a difference between sites owned outright by the CC and their leasehold ones? We had a few days at the Buxton site recently, it's leasehold and (I think) the lease is due for renewal. It was only partially open due to electricity supply problems, there was linited use in the facility blocks and it seemed a bit below par. We paid much the same rates as at other sites but did not have quite the same standards. Or maybe that's a separate issue?
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Again, as I have said many times, I have reduced the number of times I use CC sites considerably.....at a time when we are taking more and more holidays in the caravan.
I feel that this (together with explaining my actions on here) is somewhat better than to simply keep paying the ever increasing (and now well out of all poportion) charges.
But I guess it still takes some people a long while to see the obvious.......?
Write your comments here...It seems so Ian. Have you notried realised that people realise that the CC offers just what they want and are therefore prepared to pay for It?
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The star rating is a CC star rating and only relates to and compares different CC sites. At least that's what I've always believed. So therefore a 5 star CC site could be a 2 star or 3 star site in the real world of the Leisure industry.
K
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Again, as I have said many times, I have reduced the number of times I use CC sites considerably.....at a time when we are taking more and more holidays in the caravan.
I feel that this (together with explaining my actions on here) is somewhat better than to simply keep paying the ever increasing (and now well out of all poportion) charges.
But I guess it still takes some people a long while to see the obvious.......?
Write your comments here... basically all this waffle is the posters way of trying to convince other CC member to his opinions & values he places on CC sites & amenities.
Unfortunately the posters way out of touch with what most members are more than happy to accept & will continue to use CC sites regardless of the constant bombardment of nonsense talk by a number of the same people on here who think that by some miracle
their waffle will some how change things.Get real , get a life & do the what's best for you , it's your choice , as it's mine to continue to use CC sites as & when I think fit & at the prices I'M HAPPY WITH & no amount of negative posts will convince me otherwise.
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Agree, by reading some posts it appears that going to club sites is somehow mandatory and hence the need to complain about the site fees, if you (one) thinks thinks they are too high, just don't go.
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Compass362.......do you believe that making increasingly rude and offensive comments about other members and their views, will somehow make you more 'right'?
Quite the reverse, I'm afraid.
Write your comments here... whatever
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where were the increasingly rude and offensive comments?
A rational counter arguement would have been better rather than a comment like this?
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The star rating is a CC star rating and only relates to and compares different CC sites. At least that's what I've always believed. So therefore a 5 star CC site could be a 2 star or 3 star site in the real world of the Leisure industry.
K
Write your comments here...You will also find ther are sites on the cc and c&cc that have been given 5*ratings by the tourist boards
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Just read all 26 pages of this thread in my lunchtime. Perhaps I should get a life?
Some interesting and valid points raised for both sides of the argument.
However intolerance of others views has surfaced again and the topic degenerated into a bit of name calling.
The price for a pitch is based on what the market will stand before that market moves on because they consider the price more than they are happy to pay. The Caravan Club does this as do many commercial organisations. The drawback to this strategy is that
when people feel they are being taken for a ride they look for alternatives and don’t come back. You only have to look at Lidl and Aldi’s rapid expansion to see this in action.Personally I consider the Caravan Club’s pricing a tad on the high side at times but pay because normally the facilities are good and the sites aren’t full of undesirables. If the standards drop or “chavs” should proliferate, I will vote with my feet. I
can however understand others views to the contrary.I view the Caravan Club as a business to make money. Insurance and financial services is probably where they make a lot of money and the sites side is probably not so important to them nowadays.
Clearly a number of people aren’t happy with the pitch fees charged, I myself would prefer to pay less, who wouldn’t, but not at the expense of standards.
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Dude, youre spot on, folk will eventually vote with their feet and try other options.
i think the main criticism of CC prices is that, as you say, they are on the high side but, their 'consistent' quality only delivers consistent mid-level quality....a pitch, a clean loo and shower block....pretty well the least you would expect on any site
charging £25-£35 in season...many are happy to continue paying, some will feel that the club is hitting the ceiling based on its offering....
there are commercials who provide better sites and facilities, but whose prices might vary more widely across the whole year.
we are able to mix and match to suit location, timetable and pocket but many cant and see the club sites as a de rigeur choice.
try a bit of variation, add in a cl or commercial and then youll (one will) get a more rounded view of the market's offerings.
then its back to (informed
) choice.
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Just read all 26 pages of this thread in my lunchtime. Perhaps I should get a life?
Some interesting and valid points raised for both sides of the argument.
However intolerance of others views has surfaced again and the topic degenerated into a bit of name calling.
The price for a pitch is based on what the market will stand before that market moves on because they consider the price more than they are happy to pay. The Caravan Club does this as do many commercial organisations. The drawback to this strategy is that
when people feel they are being taken for a ride they look for alternatives and don’t come back. You only have to look at Lidl and Aldi’s rapid expansion to see this in action.Personally I consider the Caravan Club’s pricing a tad on the high side at times but pay because normally the facilities are good and the sites aren’t full of undesirables. If the standards drop or “chavs” should proliferate, I will vote with my feet. I
can however understand others views to the contrary.I view the Caravan Club as a business to make money. Insurance and financial services is probably where they make a lot of money and the sites side is probably not so important to them nowadays.
Clearly a number of people aren’t happy with the pitch fees charged, I myself would prefer to pay less, who wouldn’t, but not at the expense of standards.
I basically agree with you but the club simplyy needs to break even as it is not a commercial venture with shareholders to satisfy. They do need to at least break even though but that is all.
People do try to compare them with family run sites and ,arge commercial ones which can sometimes undercut them for various reasons but this is not fair. The fees are a little on the high side but you get a known standard and if this meets members needs
then that is all that they need. The sites are near full so prices cannot be so excessive as some think.0 -
Wildwood - The CC may well need to only break even (I really don't know what their target is) but unfortunately, the CC seem to think that the way to do this is to continually increase prices to off-set a huge head office set up.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way, unless you really do have a premium product that outshines all the rest. The CC have a reasonable product, better than some, worse than some.......about average. But they seek to charge higher prices than average, especially in non-peak periods.
I disagree that their sites are 'near full'. Many, out of peak periods and mid-week, are actually near empty.
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and as a regular visitor to club sites you'll know that won't you?
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We have been on three cc sites in East Anglia in the last three days and all have been at near capacity and this one all this week ,we are near entrance and as we were setting up saw a M/van turn round and leave,warden says" they still think they can just turn up ?there are more and more wrinkles on staycations now"
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and as a regular visitor to club sites you'll know that won't you?
We mostly have access to computers these days, that give you this information, Corners.....
.. But that's one thing that you do not know is how many pitches are available apart from w/ends
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and as a regular visitor to club sites you'll know that won't you?
We mostly have access to computers these days, that give you this information, Corners.....
really? How? If I assume you're looking at the club booking screens all you can deduce is that there is a minimum of one pitch left, not how many pitches are taken.
also from someone who claims to use club sites less and less you've actually been looking month by month? For what purpose if you're not using them? on all sites? I suppose you must have to make such a claim that club sites are empty
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I've looked for a site this weekend and the five I've looked at are full most days during June and July.
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