Excessive site fees

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  • thebroons
    thebroons Forum Participant Posts: 165
    edited June 2016 #332

    Trouble is, Ian, some people will just pay whatever excessive amount the fish & chip shop charges! Wink

    As long as the shop doesn't serve riff raff though ....

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #333

    Trouble is, Ian, some people will just pay whatever excessive amount the fish & chip shop charges! Wink

    As long as the shop doesn't serve riff raff though ....

    not in my local chip shopSmile

  • thebroons
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    edited June 2016 #334

    Trouble is, Ian, some people will just pay whatever excessive amount the fish & chip shop charges! Wink

    As long as the shop doesn't serve riff raff though ....

    not in my local chip shopSmile

    Do you need to show your CC membership card at the door to prove you're of better class........

  • IanH
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    edited June 2016 #335

    Trouble is, Ian, some people will just pay whatever excessive amount the fish & chip shop charges! Wink

    Very true, M. They will continue to buy them and say they are the best food ever......even though they haven't tried any other food, because they are too timid to do so.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2016 #336

    The chippy van that. Visits the Sandringham site is definitely not for riff raffSurprisedmind you there also does not seem to be a problem with  "over there"vans pitching nose in either Wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #337

    Trouble is, Ian, some people will just pay whatever excessive amount the fish & chip shop charges! Wink

    As long as the shop doesn't serve riff raff though ....

    not in my local chip shopSmile

    Do you need to show your CC membership card at the door to prove you're of better class........

    No I own itSmile

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2016 #338

    Back on track.Just returned from Brecon Beacons CC. Excellent site,well laid out, tidy and in an excellent location. Up dated facility blocks to rival the best of commercial sites.Price July 1st £23-30pn Unit and 2 adults. Quite busy in weekdays and more
    so at the week end. Units leaving as late as 7pm on Sunday.Price, quality totally acceptable  Wardens using discretion properly. If the club can do this why then charge the exhorbitant fees when sites are virtually empty "Winter/Spring/Autumn". driving the
    likes of us to the commercial sector, or am i required to subsidise the peak  periods". Unfortuntly we dont do it any more and vote with our feet.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited July 2016 #339

    But are all the sites classed as expensive in Winter/Spring/Autumn we stayed on 'Seaview' site Berwick on Tweed in November last year £13.95pn full facilities, H/S pitch. That was 5p less than the CL we had just left @ £14pn, grass, no toilet or shower block,
    the price had gone up by £2 for the winter to cover the cost of extra electric. I didn't mind paying either as they were in the place that I wanted to be, but it does show that not ALL sites are expensive all the time, in fact its about the only time that
    we tour in the UK is Off season, quieter sites, guarenteed H/S and lovely clean warm shower blocks.Smile

  • Wildwood
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    But are all the sites classed as expensive in Winter/Spring/Autumn we stayed on 'Seaview' site Berwick on Tweed in November last year £13.95pn full facilities, H/S pitch. That was 5p less than the CL we had just left @ £14pn, grass, no toilet or shower block,
    the price had gone up by £2 for the winter to cover the cost of extra electric. I didn't mind paying either as they were in the place that I wanted to be, but it does show that not ALL sites are expensive all the time, in fact its about the only time that
    we tour in the UK is Off season, quieter sites, guarenteed H/S and lovely clean warm shower blocks.Smile

    Frankly I do not think the clubs fees are exhorbitant for what you get although the are on the high side of average. If you look at this months Practical Caravan review on sites in Cornwall then it is clear that club sites are at the top end of the costs
    in most cases but only one seriously undercuts them and one is far more expensive. That is a particularly competitive area though which means sites do have to keep prices reasonable which is not always the case elsewhere.

  • ALANkW
    ALANkW Forum Participant Posts: 70
    edited July 2016 #341

    I am beginning to think why am i member  We just went to book morton in marsh site (cotswolds) £215 for 7 nights begining of august  

    Not paying that  so booked riverside in stratford on avon right on the river with a water taxi from the site into the centre of stratford  for the same 7 nights £162 

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2016 #342

    Reading here I thought club sites were cheaper than commercials in "Peak". Even that myth now appears exploded.

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #343

    But are all the sites classed as expensive in Winter/Spring/Autumn we stayed on 'Seaview' site Berwick on Tweed in November last year £13.95pn full facilities, H/S pitch. That was 5p less than the CL we had just left @ £14pn, grass, no toilet or shower block, the price had gone up by £2 for the winter to cover the cost of extra electric. I didn't mind paying either as they were in the place that I wanted to be, but it does show that not ALL sites are expensive all the time, in fact its about the only time that we tour in the UK is Off season, quieter sites, guarenteed H/S and lovely clean warm shower blocks.Smile

    Frankly I do not think the clubs fees are exhorbitant for what you get although the are on the high side of average. If you look at this months Practical Caravan review on sites in Cornwall then it is clear that club sites are at the top end of the costs in most cases but only one seriously undercuts them and one is far more expensive. That is a particularly competitive area though which means sites do have to keep prices reasonable which is not always the case elsewhere.

    WW, what you get on a club site is just about the minimum any organisation could get away with and still be called a campsite...

    a pitch, an EHU and a toilet/shower block.

    dont start quoting wardens, receptions, waste bins etc, etc...just about every other site has these...

    when charging prices over £15 customers have a right to expect a bit more....

    free wifi?

    water/waste on the pitch?

    these at both the commercials ive used this week @ £15...

    not to mention the bar, restaurant, mini supermarket, etc...

    the club is in a timewarp, charging extra for a 'serviced pitch' and for a really dodgy wifi set up....customers expect more than a pitch, leccy and a loo.

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2016 #344

    Whatever folk think about "excessive" CC site prices, why do they still use them and stump up those outrageous amounts of money when, within, say a 10 mile radius of pretty much any CC site (maybe excepting Scotland) there are many, many alternatives, be
    it CLs, CSs, private sites etc? I just can't follow the logic of paying an amount you're not happy with when there are alternatives! (Of course, the quality of those alternatives may not be so consistent.) Undecided

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #345

    M, i am on a private site....water on the pitch, free wifi all at £15.....

    i use a lot of 'sites' other than CC (CCC, THS, CL/CS, haven, commercials etc....) which (IMHO) gives me a reasonable idea of whats on offer at what prices...certainly a better one than those who use solely CC sites and think they're the bees knees....at whatever prices..

    however, i do use CC sites when the occasion warrents it, so i can also talk about these (and make comparisns) from my own experiences.

    as has been said before....theyre ok, nice and consistently clean, but by no stretch of the imagination are they 'premier league' sites, the model just doesnt allow it....

    so, for what they offer, they are expensive, not just at weekends, but in midweek when they are running at low/mid occupancy levels, and the extension of the 'upper price' seasons is a really sneaky 'trick'...

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2016 #346

    Who has ever claimed CC sites are "premier league"?

    But you misunderstand my point, BB. We know you have extensive knowledge of all sorts of sites. Given that, and your views on CC sites vis-à-vis price and quality, why continue to use them when there are acceptable alternatives at a lower price within a small radius? Undecided

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #347

    3rd para....

    i use them when the occasion warrants....if there is a suitable alternative (not always one available) i'll use it, as in the past two weeks...

    one night CC Tewkesbury, three nights CL Ludlow, three nights CC Broadway (friends wanted to try it there with us), three nights Sandy Balls, five nights Lytton Lawn...

    i am one of the few who actually does vote with their wheels...but i 'occasionally' use CC sites....

    at least my opinions of their 'value' (or not) is based on real experience.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #348

    If the "model " that both major clubs was so out of sinc with some who complain ,then the hundreds of thousands of site nights sold each year, and would be more if there was the capacity,going by the amount of people complaining that the sites are allways full when they try to book,both clubs seem to satisfy the vast majority by their priceing structures,

    ps we have used "other" than cc ,but we find that cc or cl sites have always been where we wanted to be

  • Tammygirl
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    edited July 2016 #349

    Whatever folk think about "excessive" CC site prices, why do they still use them and stump up those outrageous amounts of money when, within, say a 10 mile radius of pretty much any CC site (maybe excepting Scotland) there are many, many alternatives,
    be it CLs, CSs, private sites etc? I just can't follow the logic of paying an amount you're not happy with when there are alternatives!
    (Of course, the quality of those alternatives may not be so consistent.) Undecided

    Could it possibly be that some folk are just to lazy to search out these better deals, its just so easy to look up the CC website and pick a site.Undecided

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #350

    Whatever folk think about "excessive" CC site prices, why do they still use them and stump up those outrageous amounts of money when, within, say a 10 mile radius of pretty much any CC site (maybe excepting Scotland) there are many, many alternatives,
    be it CLs, CSs, private sites etc? I just can't follow the logic of paying an amount you're not happy with when there are alternatives!
    (Of course, the quality of those alternatives may not be so consistent.) Undecided

    Could it possibly be that some folk are just to lazy to search out these better deals, its just so easy to look up the CC website and pick a site.Undecided

    ..Or more than satisfied with what is on offer by the clubs without trying to "save" a couple of quid

  • Tammygirl
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    Whatever folk think about "excessive" CC site prices, why do they still use them and stump up those outrageous amounts of money when, within, say a 10 mile radius of pretty much any CC site (maybe excepting Scotland) there are many, many alternatives,
    be it CLs, CSs, private sites etc? I just can't follow the logic of paying an amount you're not happy with when there are alternatives!
    (Of course, the quality of those alternatives may not be so consistent.) Undecided

    Could it possibly be that some folk are just to lazy to search out these better deals, its just so easy to look up the CC website and pick a site.Undecided

    ..Or more than satisfied with what is on offer by the clubs without trying to "save" a couple of quid

    I'm sure there are some that are "satisfied" but £10 - £15 per night is hardly a couple of quidWink

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2016 #352

    I must admit that we are "GUILTY AS CHARGED" we book CC sites as the easy option.

    But we do look at the price, and can see that CC sites are edging excessively upwards.

    So we are having to re-think our plans

  • Tammygirl
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    edited July 2016 #353

    I must admit that we are "GUILTY AS CHARGED" we book CC sites as the easy option.

    But we do look at the price, and can see that CC sites are edging excessively upwards.

    So we are having to re-think our plans

    Embarassed OH has just reminded me that not everyone has the options that we have, of being able to look things up on a computer and
    compare rates and dates with other sites/clubs. It turns out he was speaking to a friend in the village yesterday, who was complaining that the CC prices were getting a bit steep and wondered if the other club was any betterUndecided the
    thing is he doesn't have a computer and makes all his bookings through the call centre, I'm sure though that the staff there will guide him to the best value sites won't theyInnocent

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2016 #354

    Hmmm!!  Sad

    We are spending more time "over there" while we can (insurance wise) as it is cheaper for us overall.  Things are "up in the air" as far as car/caravan v MH are concerned, we need to change the car soon as it is unreliable.

    OH is pushing for a MH, but I am not so keen.  It's a big problem.

    We love the T/A caravan for the room, so would prefer a larger MH, but I no longer have the licence to drive one (being almost 74)

  • MichaelT
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    edited July 2016 #355

    3rd para....

    i use them when the occasion warrants....if there is a suitable alternative (not always one available) i'll use it, as in the past two weeks...

    one night CC Tewkesbury, three nights CL Ludlow, three nights CC Broadway (friends wanted to try it there with us), three nights Sandy Balls, five nights Lytton Lawn...

    i am one of the few who actually does vote with their wheels...but i 'occasionally' use CC sites....

    at least my opinions of their 'value' (or not) is based on real experience.

    Write your comments here...but do you use the commercials when it's cheaper i.e. Monday to Friday rather than a whole week so you pay the exorbitant in many cases weekend prices? 

    For us we never notice the cost of a week as we rarely stay on CC sites that long so our costs are 1 or 2 nights at a time so it doesn't seem so bad.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2016 #356

    I think that is one aspect of pricing. A "few quid" might not seem worth the bother if only for a couple of nights. Stay for a fortnight and the higher price then becomes significant.

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  • Justus2
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    edited July 2016 #358

    Our next CC club site is mid September, July & August we have gone elsewhere due to to price. When you go away a lot, as we do, those few pounds extra per night add up very quickly.

  • DEBSC
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    edited July 2016 #359

    We are also guilty of booking CC sites and then moaning about the price. The problem is I have an elderly Dad who hasn't been well, we also have other family commitments with the grandchildren, which I don't want to expand on.Because of this, we book CC
    sites as there is a chance that we may have to cancel or rearrange at short notice and the club allows us to do this. We don't usually use cls as we like to use a fully equipped shower block. However, I do object to paying top wack for sites that haven't been
    updated for years and, due to the change in the high season dates, rates that have risen so much. We used to take the grandchildren away for what was almost a free week at peak time using the site night vouchers but now that will be no more either. Due to
    all of this we are very seriously thinking of giving up and buying a static van.

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2016 #360

    Bolero Boy has it right.The CC is now way behind the competition in quality but still charges premium prices. Time for a proper sort out of the HO function to get savings and at the same time a proper reassesment of the sites. Forget the non essentials.
    Like many others we no longer stick slavishy to CC sites or even Cls but look at what is available and certainly over the last 12 mnths we have found the alternatives better. This from smeone  who spends some 150 nights away. all in the UK. Before I get accused
    of knocking this is a constructive critisism hopefully helping the club to keep going in the present very competitive market.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #361

    Whatever folk think about "excessive" CC site prices, why do they still use them and stump up those outrageous amounts of money when, within, say a 10 mile radius of pretty much any CC site (maybe excepting Scotland) there are many, many alternatives,
    be it CLs, CSs, private sites etc? I just can't follow the logic of paying an amount you're not happy with when there are alternatives!
    (Of course, the quality of those alternatives may not be so consistent.) Undecided

    Could it possibly be that some folk are just to lazy to search out these better deals, its just so easy to look up the CC website and pick a site.Undecided

    ..Or more than satisfied with what is on offer by the clubs without trying to "save" a couple of quid

    I'm sure there are some that are "satisfied" but £10 - £15 per night is hardly a couple of quidWink

    ...Anyone can find those discounts just look at the "Holiday Camps" in peak compaired to both clubs