Excessive site fees
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I actually referred to 'out of season and mid-week', Corners.
But no matter, just to be clear - JVB and Corners - are you saying that you are perfectly happy wih the recent substantial increases in CC site fees and 'spreading out' of the more expensive seasons, on top of a further increase of 5% in membership fees?
And would you be just as happy with similar increases next year?
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Surely nobody would object to substantial reductions in midweek and off-peak prices to gain income from otherwise unused pitches.
This of course would be offset by the annual increases in weekend and peak time prices.
This is the normal business model across the leisure and holiday industry.
K
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I actually referred to 'out of season and mid-week', Corners.
But no matter, just to be clear - JVB and Corners - are you saying that you are perfectly happy wih the recent substantial increases in CC site fees and 'spreading out' of the more expensive seasons, on top of a further increase of 5% in membership fees?
And would you be just as happy with similar increases next year?
and so did I for midweek, but as most club sites are closed out of season I assume you mean off peak? ie now, but you havn't answered how you know club sites are empty off peak and/or midweek as you claim not to visit them.
As to your second question, unlike you (who are on a club site now I believe?) if I was not happy with club prices then I wouldn't go?
Also I do not think that there have been substantial rises, if I thought so I would not pay them.
So if you are so unhappy with club prices why did you pay them? It just sounds so strange, pay up for something you yourself claim is expensive when as you say there are other chepaer sites just as good?
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Not having the confidence to try anything other than what they are used to (and therefore being willing to pay whatever the CC chose to charge them) hardly makes someone the best judge of what is reasonable in terms of cost (or even quality) does it?
(incidently, to answer your point yet again, Corners.....we have reduced our usage of CC sites from about 85% of bookings to less than 25% over the last couple of years).
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Not having the confidence to try anything other than what they are used to (and therefore being willing to pay whatever the CC chose to charge them) hardly makes someone the best judge of what is reasonable in terms of cost (or even quality) does it?
(incidently, to answer your point yet again, Corners.....we have reduced our usage of CC sites from about 85% of bookings to less than 25% over the last couple of years).
Interesting use of specific percentages! Just wonder what percentage of the membership this poster personally represent? Just interested mind!
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
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I actually referred to 'out of season and mid-week', Corners.
But no matter, just to be clear - JVB and Corners - are you saying that you are perfectly happy wih the recent substantial increases in CC site fees and 'spreading out' of the more expensive seasons, on top of a further increase of 5% in membership fees?
And would you be just as happy with similar increases next year?
and so did I for midweek, but as most club sites are closed out of season I assume you mean off peak? ie now, but you havn't answered how you know club sites are empty off peak and/or midweek as you claim not to visit them.
Unfortunately "now" is one of the second most expensive periods on club sites, as from 22nd June. We are arriving at Malvern Hills tomorrow, and there is no mid-week discount available either.
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I actually referred to 'out of season and mid-week', Corners.
But no matter, just to be clear - JVB and Corners - are you saying that you are perfectly happy wih the recent substantial increases in CC site fees and 'spreading out' of the more expensive seasons, on top of a further increase of 5% in membership fees?
And would you be just as happy with similar increases next year?
and so did I for midweek, but as most club sites are closed out of season I assume you mean off peak? ie now, but you havn't answered how you know club sites are empty off peak and/or midweek as you claim not to visit them.
Unfortunately "now" is one of the second most expensive periods on club sites, as from 22nd June. We are arriving at Malvern Hills tomorrow, and there is no mid-week discount available either.
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I actually referred to 'out of season and mid-week', Corners.
But no matter, just to be clear - JVB and Corners - are you saying that you are perfectly happy wih the recent substantial increases in CC site fees and 'spreading out' of the more expensive seasons, on top of a further increase of 5% in membership fees?
And would you be just as happy with similar increases next year?
and so did I for midweek, but as most club sites are closed out of season I assume you mean off peak? ie now, but you havn't answered how you know club sites are empty off peak and/or midweek as you claim not to visit them.
Unfortunately "now" is one of the second most expensive periods on club sites, as from 22nd June. We are arriving at Malvern Hills tomorrow, and there is no mid-week discount available either.
so as now is the second most, so off peak then?
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
Write your comments here...words fail me , total & utter waffle merchant
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
Write your comments here...words fail me , total & utter waffle merchant
I really think you need to moderate your tone......that is a very unpleasant thing to say about Corners.
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
Well, as it's a special year and we wanted to be in this area, we thought we would treat ourselves and blow the cost.
We also went tge tge RSC theatre the other day - incredibly expensive, but we paid it as a one-off. We don't often indulge in such luxuries.
Bit much when a caravan site is thought of as a luxury, eh?
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
Write your comments here...words fail me , total & utter waffle merchant
Write your comments here... I'm sure Corners understood the message wasn't anything he had said.......
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
Write your comments here...words fail me , total & utter waffle merchant
Write your comments here... I'm sure Corners understood the message wasn't anything he had said.......
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
Well, as it's a special year and we wanted to be in this area, we thought we would treat ourselves and blow the cost.
We also went tge tge RSC theatre the other day - incredibly expensive, but we paid it as a one-off. We don't often indulge in such luxuries.
Bit much when a caravan site is thought of as a luxury, eh?
I'm shocked! Blow the cost? Welcome to the real world, Ian. You're beginning to understand why people use CC sites - because it suits them to do so. Choice, eh?
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
Well, as it's a special year and we wanted to be in this area, we thought we would treat ourselves and blow the cost.
We also went tge tge RSC theatre the other day - incredibly expensive, but we paid it as a one-off. We don't often indulge in such luxuries.
Bit much when a caravan site is thought of as a luxury, eh?
I'm shocked! Blow the cost? Welcome to the real world, Ian. You're beginning to understand why people use CC sites - because it suits them to do so. Choice, eh?
and... when you want the best, a luxury, you decide to go to a club site? Doesn't this go against all you have said about club sites being nothing special?
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Not having the confidence to try anything other than what they are used to (and therefore being willing to pay whatever the CC chose to charge them) hardly makes someone the best judge of what
is reasonable in terms of cost (or even quality) does it?(incidently, to answer your point yet again, Corners.....we have reduced our usage of CC sites from about 85% of bookings to less than 25% over the last couple of years).
Interesting use of specific percentages! Just wonder what percentage of the membership this poster personally represent? Just interested mind!
We are currently on our 64th night this year and not one has been on a Club site. As we don't expect to use any at all we have decided not to renew our subscription
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Just to redress the balance with some real costs we have paid per night in the last 10 days away for 2 adults.
Minehead CC Site £21.10 HS with Electric
Trewethett Farm CC Site £18 Economy grass pitch (views on the cliff edge but miles from facilities)
Ramslade CC Site £21.10 HS with Electric
Charmouth C&CC Site £24.20 HS with Electric (poor quality pitches and ancient fresh water points)
Herston Yards Farm £25 Private Site HS with Electric & Water (poor site, dirty showers and facilities)
Setley Ridge Vineyard CL £15 (no facilities only electric hook up, water tap and waste disposal miles from pitches)
Battle Normanhurst Court CC £21.10 HS with Electric
So apart from a no facilities CL the CC sites were cheaper and in our opinion of better quality especially compared to private and C&CC sites and not in our view excessive....
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The actual cost of anything has to be measured against value. The only person that can measure value is the user. Hence to some CC sites equate to poor value whereas to some they represent value for money.
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£74.40 for three nights next week at Broadway.
£45 for three nights at Ludlow (CL).
Ludlow Touring Park would have been £90 ish for three nights so we (and our pals) went for the CL this time....last time we had a 3 for 2 deal (£50 for 3 nights in Feb) which made it cheaper than a club site, so swings and roundabouts....
either way, LTP shows the club how to 'do it' in pretty much all depts....spacious pitches, wide roads, fantastic amenities block, well stocked accessories shop, sophisticated LNA, modern drive over waste disposal and MHSP....etc, etc...
IMHO far more 'quality' in that site than any CC site we've been on.....but, it is expensive 'in season'....
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If either club went down the same route as some comercial sites ,then charge eye watering prices in the peak, to recoup their investments ,from the very people who do not have the option of the off peak loss leaders that the same sites charge that some
think the clubs should charge,just think of the uproar that would unfold on here,when it seems by the site occupancy on the sites we have been on and are on now this last few days seems that most are more than comfortable with what the clubs offer0 -
Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
Well, as it's a special year and we wanted to be in this area, we thought we would treat ourselves and blow the cost.
We also went tge tge RSC theatre the other day - incredibly expensive, but we paid it as a one-off. We don't often indulge in such luxuries.
Bit much when a caravan site is thought of as a luxury, eh?
I'm shocked! Blow the cost? Welcome to the real world, Ian. You're beginning to understand why people use CC sites - because it suits them to do so. Choice, eh?
and... when you want the best, a luxury, you decide to go to a club site? Doesn't this go against all you have said about club sites being nothing special?
No, actually we wanted to be in this area for personal reasons and despite the site being only adequate (but acceptable) we decided to pay the premium anyway. The nearest CL has now closed.
Not really a compliment and I really don't see why the "real world" is one in which people would pay over the top for average facilities (and no Corners......certainly not a luxury......as I'm sure that the people who left early due to their pitches flooding will attest!).
As a one-off, we were prepared to pay a premium for an average site, for particular reasons. Hardly a glowing compliment.
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Ian, I'm shocked to learn you are currently staying on one of the most expensive sites on the CC network.
I thought you would have shunned that one to show a moral stand against CC's pricing policy rather than paying up and condoning their practice.
and then complaining about it as well
Write your comments here...words fail me , total & utter waffle merchant
Write your comments here... I'm sure Corners understood the message wasn't anything he had said.......
Well surely it couldn't have been anything that I said, Compass, sweetie!
I know that you hang on my every word!
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We were exclusively CC and Cl users until about 18 months ago. We then took advantage of the Morris Leisure and Haven offers promoted in the club mag and Members offers.What we found was extremely good price offers in winter/Spring up until late May ( so
much so that fully continental,pitches were cheaper than basic Cls). What really surprised us was the quality of the sites, pitches and facilities, so much so that it made club sites really second rate.Now as prices increase we are using club sites again.
The real question is- can the club really afford to lose our income off peak bearing in mind we holiday some 120/130 nights each year. Speaking to other commercial users everyone was a club member so the loss of income must be substantial. What will the clubs
response be to 2017 prices- another well above inflation increase or some creativity in the slaker months? I dont see this discussion as against those who wll use CC sites only or those that pick and mix but a wake up call to HO to realise there is increased
competition out there and many of us are prepared to try it if the price and facilities are right,0 -
Hmm.........threads like this always make me smile......
I've just got back from a mini break away in the van. Stayed at three different club sites. The first and the last were in my estimation 60 to 70% full, thats midweek, out of school holidays, not a bank holiday week etc.
The middle site I arrived at 12.01pm on the Thursday. I was offered a choice of 2 (yes two) pitches. That was it, that was all that was left.
It is clear to me that enough people are happy to pay CC prices, and unless some other viable way of regulating demand is introduced, prices will have to be increased dramatically. Perhaps the club could start allocating the dates you are allowed on a site,
a bit like my employer allocates leave!Personally I would like to see a 50 to 100% price increase so that occupancy falls and I get a better choice of pitches on site, and wouldn't have to join the mad scramble for a pitch at 12 noon......
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Hmm.........threads like this always make me smile......
I've just got back from a mini break away in the van. Stayed at three different club sites. The first and the last were in my estimation 60 to 70% full, thats midweek, out of school holidays, not a bank holiday week etc.
The middle site I arrived at 12.01pm on the Thursday. I was offered a choice of 2 (yes two) pitches. That was it, that was all that was left.
It is clear to me that enough people are happy to pay CC prices, and unless some other viable way of regulating demand is introduced, prices will have to be increased dramatically. Perhaps the club could start allocating the dates you are allowed on a site,
a bit like my employer allocates leave!Personally I would like to see a 50 to 100% price increase so that occupancy falls and I get a better choice of pitches on site, and wouldn't have to join the mad scramble for a pitch at 12 noon......
It is clear to me that enough people are happy to pay CC prices
Fully argreealthough I would like a 200% increase, to keep out the riff raff
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