Corona Virus Concerns

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  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited May 2020 #2042

    If you have a garmin GPS for walking with os mapping on card you can put that in your edge and it will work.

  • young thomas
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    edited May 2020 #2043

    Hi all....ive just opened an Ebike thread in this Caravan & Motorhome Chat section, so as to free up the Coronavirus stuff...

    hopefully there will be plenty to discuss for those wishing to get aboard.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2020 #2044

    Serco? In charge of running contact app....................🤨

    There’s one thing about this group of inept’s floundering around way above their decision making and leadership skills, they still have the capacity to astonish............deary deary me☹️

     

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #2045

    It could have been worse ..... think G4S!  yell

    Talking of decision making - who do you reckon is going to be made the scapegoat for what's been going on ........ "sorry, Mr Hancock, how do you feel about the post of ambassador to ... er ...China?" laughing

  • cabbiemick
    cabbiemick Forum Participant Posts: 297
    edited May 2020 #2046

    hi everyone i went back to work yesterday as a black cab driver in london and i can tell you all there is no self distancing in london not many masks clapham common was packed people getting off tubes with no masks so if there is a second spike were deffintley know in two weeks time 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #2047

    I agree, M. Originally I thought it would be Raab but as time's gone on I've switched my bet to Hancock for being the fall guy.

    Serco - already they've managed to leak email addresses....

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #2048

    That doesn't bode well.

    Take care, CM.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #2049

    One thing's for sure - it won't be Boris who, apart from an inept public broadcast and one clearly confused evening briefing (anyone else notice the slip of the tongue when he said "no later than July 4" instead of "no earlier"?) has kept an uncharacteristically low profile since his recovery. frown

  • cabbiemick
    cabbiemick Forum Participant Posts: 297
    edited May 2020 #2050

    it will be all scientist will be the fall guys and girls already started therese coffey pension sesretary say the goverment was given wrong scietific advice

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #2051

    Were they given the wrong decisions? or did the governments chief advisor? who was sitting in (it is understood?) on the sage meetings put his own spin on itundecided 

     

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #2053

    It made sense to those of us , who in life,  have learned that a few mistakes in correspondence , will tend to concentrate the mind cool

    But then there are CVsundecided

  • cabbiemick
    cabbiemick Forum Participant Posts: 297
    edited May 2020 #2054

    sorry mollys mummy i am dyslexic and use predicted text i was trying to say this goverment will blame the scientists for there poor  performance i wont post any more as my post dont make sence sorry for that

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #2056

    But presumably it was the politicians who appointed him in the first place? I think cabbiemick was right (and the meaning of his post was absolutely clear, to me anyway) - politicians starting to look around for someone else to blame - nothing new there of course - but at the end of the day where does the buck stop? (Apparently just short of the door to number 10! frown)

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #2058

    So very truefrown

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #2059

    It would ithink  it a problem for  all at this time ,  as mistakes have been made in every country so far infected with Covid19  ,,

    To  try the blame game ,it should go in the direction of the country where it was first let out into the world  and surprise surprise now seem to have developed an antidote to neutralise it  with out the need of a vacineundecided

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #2061

    You crack on and post Mick - none of us are perfect and I mistype nad misspell all the while. Add tour twopenorth 

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited May 2020 #2062

    Its a total farce - suddenly it is 'your club' so 'you' should support it as their excuse for not extending membership lost during lockdown.  

    Strange how normally it is a business and not a club, and put up or shut up when anyone comments.  

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #2063

    Not sniping, One, but I think perfectly valid to question the decisions of those (politicians) who have chosen to place themselves in positions of responsibility and are being well paid to do so. They might garner slightly more support, from me anyway, if they accepted that mistakes have been made (which they undoubtedly have) and were slightly more open about the decision making processure itself. smile

  • Whittakerr
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    edited May 2020 #2064

    I agree with the fundamentals of your post, however I really dont think our press would offer any support to a politician who openly admitted to making a mistake, especially when talking about decisions with a life or death outcome. I rather think they would be hung out to dry.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #2067

    That's possibly true,  though wouldn't it be a refreshing change - and the statesmanlike thing to do - if that happened anyway? Are political decisions really to be made then on the basis of how the press will react?

    Regarding questioning decisions, it is quite right IMHO that the press and individuals should feel confident enough to question them, lest we end up in the ridiculous position we are in now where primary schools have been told it's safe to return by some arbitrary date and a minister whose previous responsibility was as defence secretary  (until being required to resign) telling primary school teachers how they should be doing their jobs. That decision seems increasingly questionable now given the number of councils who are going to defy it and the concern about many, many parents over the safety of their little ones. 

    Still, we are drifting into the murky waters of politics now so best stop even though it's totally relevant to the thread title.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited May 2020 #2068

    TW wrote "Serco - already they've managed to leak email addresses...."

    Clearly not a contraction of "Security Company"

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2020 #2069

    Sorry OP, but I must disagree to a certain extent. On this one it was foresight, certainly in our little family group. You don’t have to be a scientist with multi PHD’s to understand that the weakest and most vulnerable (usually in terms of lung and heart conditions) are going to be at very very high risk. They always are with any flu like virus. But no, the Care sector was left almost to fend for itself, PPE an afterthought, and as for the frankly unbelievable not testing patients going from a hospital into a care home, that is just downright irresponsible. If I had a family member, in a Care home, who had died, I would be asking for an enquiry from the scientists/ministers level. Not blaming the Carers, a huge percentage have gone above and beyond in terms of trying to keep vulnerable elderly as protected as they could, and not a few have suffered themselves. I am afraid that this has exposed the limitations in terms of decision making, understanding, and actually in one or two instances, empathy around those who are elected to lead our response. The only redeeming thing for me is that Chris Grayling hasn’t been one of them.

    Don't forget, the current statistics are showing UK as having something like the second or third highest death rate v 1M population in the World, I have no doubts that other Nations are either sending in dodgy statistics, or have got very lucky, but it’s still appallingly bad for such a wealthy advanced country, and has to point at just how under prepared, ill equipped and almost blasé our successive Governments have been for a long while. Too little targeted very poorly indeed.

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2020 #2070

    For me I'm undecided, this is totally uncharted territory, totally unprecedented.

    We're looking at it from the inside while many I speak to in Italy are amazed that everyone who got ill could have treatment. While things could have been done better the NHS staff didn't have to decide who could have treatment and who couldn't. Were the nightingale hospitals ever full?

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #2071

    The majority of areas of the world that has had , in very short time spans to cope with this virus have made mistakes,  ,on the very sharp learning curve that has been involved when trying to find ways to combat it 

    Even countries that went down the do little route, ie Sweden,are now have the highest fatalities per head of population in europe ,

    It will be several years at least before ,any real ideas of how to make the least mistakes will be available to maybe cope with the next , and IMHO more dangerous outbreak

    It is not any good trying to blame anyone,

    Except probably  the place it was allowed to escape from in the first place