CAMC 10amp Electric?

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #122

    In an earlier post on this thread, it was mentioned that the poster had been on "live chat" and the answer from the sites department, was in the negative as regards plans to reduce the amps available at each hookup surprised

  • trellis
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    edited February 2020 #123

    Drifting slightly off topic , some posters have mentioned the club mantra of "reducing use due to increasing energy costs " . Surely like us wouldn't CMC bounce between suppliers to get the best deal possible ? .If a domestic household can save a few hundred pounds by changing , the club could surely save in excess of tens of thousands over the year .

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2020 #125

    Yes I saw that JV thanks. Having used Livechat myself, I am also aware that the answer to a particular question can vary slightly from the Club’s official response when it finally happens. The same as it does with a conversation with Wardens. All technically a similar interpretation, but just differing enough to warrant the “official response” as being the most valued.

    Trellis, I sincerely hope that as guardians of the Club purse, they do indeed “shop around”. No doubt there will be a Contracts dept at HQ😁

  • Oscarmax
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    edited February 2020 #126

    We use a CL who have a 16 amp supply, unfortunately some selfish members have seriously abused the system, they have now decided to fit metered EHU allowing first 10 kWh, thereafter chargeable.

    last year they were so upset they displayed some signs, plus added some signs electric bikes and mobility scooters charging £2.00, plus no EV charging.

    I thought £2.00 to charge my mobility scooter excessive, but they are obviously a bit miffed and I can charge my scooter up whilst travelling in the car.

    Maybe a 10 kWh limit (chargeable over that)  would be better than a 10 amp limit, it would curtail the awning heater brigade and benefit us all.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2020 #127

    I have to give that a “like”. If you need more, pay more, rather than it being added to a generic pitch fee. Once everyone is driving EV’s, then it can be done differently. 

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #128

    It will be "interesting?" to see how the new charges from next month, are going to be implemented,it will soon show how "honest" some members will be, when advising the site staff that "we will be charging our hybrid or EV today"surprised

  • Oscarmax
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    edited February 2020 #129

    I am going down the PHEV route this year, as regards the £2.00 it is more than fair and reasonable, I would not expect other to subsidise my usage, as regards it not a sneaky free charge in my book its is theft.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2020 #130

    Yep, the 'free' charge is akin to syphoning fuel out of the warden's tractor.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2020 #131

    Not an uncommon scenario on CLs. We are friendly with a few owners we visit on a regular basis, and over a drink have had related one or two tales of occasionally what goes on. Subsidising some Winter visitors isn’t uncommon. It’s why on some CLs that open all year, you get a more expensive Winter pitch fee, or why an awning is charged for, or why charging of EVs is discouraged. 

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #132

    It's red dieselsurprised

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #133

    Buy a diesel heater then

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #134

    They do give off a whiff, if free standing frown

    Ps in place of radiant awning heaterwink

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2020 #136

    I wonder how that breaker costs including the receptor that it plugs into and then the cost of installing those for each pitch on the club's network? 200 sites at what 50-100 per site? £5 per pitch?

    And to what end? lower pitch prices? Perhaps, but i don't see the club ever lowering it prices, and no way to recoup the costs of having them installed. 

    I suppose new sites or pitches from scratch? But then would they be attractive to new users used to having another supply at other sites?

    Is any non club site going down this route I wonder?

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #137

    So who tests the breakers after each use to ensure they are fit to be 're used,, it would I think, be a non starter with UK regs on the use of such equipment by the general publicsurprised

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  • huskydog
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    edited February 2020 #139

    10 amp circuit breakers on E-bay are 60 pence each if you buy 500 or more , just saying cool

    it could be done if people were more positive than negative wink

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  • huskydog
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    edited February 2020 #141

    Couldn’t happen here , the wardens are too busy cleaning the toilets wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2020 #142

    Yes, but while the mechanics are possible, the cost doesn't appear to be.

    Equally I don't think it is practical on a busy club site with a hundred arrivals for a warden to attend to every new arrival at all hours past 12.

    I don't understand your reference to you suggesting anything, I didn't, I  merely pointed out how impractical your post was to its implementation.

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #143

    it could be done if people were more positive than negative  

    It could be done but to what useful end on many sites Husky

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #144

    Elf and safety? is it because the sites are complying with the regs? and am sure a qualified sparks is employed on those sitesundecided

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2020 #146

    It's not JVB's H&S at all but the current legislation that applies to all, and cannot be overruled just because there are no accidents over there using such a system. The club has to abide by what happens in the UK.

     

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #147

    I suppose new sites or pitches from scratch? But then would they be attractive to new users used to having another supply at other sites?

    It would make no difference to this user and would not affect my usage beyond switching heating to 1kw and life as normal as long as I am made aware. As for those charging mobility scooters etc I have no idea of the amperage.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2020 #148

    good one, but I thought we were talking AC here? Anyway I always alternate between being positive and negative.

    I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure.

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #150

    In between the myriad of other jobs that they are involved in you mean ?wink

    Ps  toilet cleaning and office hours are just those jobs seen by on site "members"? That some think may interfere with their activitiessurprised

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2020 #151

    I am absolutely certain that if the Club makes changes to how it provides and monitors supply of electricity to a pitch it will look at the most cost effective, safe and labour saving method it can. Hence the reason why I didn’t specify, who, how or what, merely envisaged that it’s possible. 🙂

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