CAMC 10amp Electric?
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How times have changed. Our first caravan certainly had mains hook up but no battery so when we (often) used sites with no power we parked close by and had a short extension lead to connect the 13S to the van. Heating, cooking and fridge were all gas so the EHU wasn’t necessary.
I suppose life is more comfortable now but is it more fun? Campers in tents for the most part make do without electricity.
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Yep camping is still fun, except when the lilo goes down😡 Mind, I need a couple of ibuprofen nowadays after a night on a lilo.
It’s not that long ago we camped at Wincanton on our way down to caravan we had left in Cornwall. We stayed three nights, had a great time. Bag of Smash, tin of beans, some sausages and we were in heaven sat out under the stars. Blasted Army tossing shells about up on Salisbury Plain at 2am in morning.....
Always tickles us that the camping area on Club Sites is usually the furthest point from the loos.
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And then on most sites the serviced pitches are the nearest the loos?
But if tenters were nearest ,the serviced pitch members would be up in arms as tenters are not members
ps In the uk it seems our government are doing its utmost? to show that they are fighting for the planet with their green ideas for us to pay for,and the uk contributes the just 2% of the pollution that the world emits
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You're OT a little here Dave but as you have brought it up I'll answer. I have done quite a few 3 month trips and certainly know there is no difference at all.
From the summer of 1979 till summer of 1983 I'd finish early/mid June and wouldn't start again till early October. I'd spend that time either on flying or living in Italy. Either way I was certainly on holiday all the time even though working quite hard at times.
I think your three months in the sun with a caravan ticks all the holiday boxes for most people. You can call it want what you want (unless you're saying it was 'work' or difficult (in which case why do it?) and that's your prerogative, but I personally call a holiday any time when I can do what I want. It's just words just like I viewed 'working' as having to go to work and a set time and place. Once that was over, as it is now, it was holiday time.
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But I can't be held responsible for your incorrect interpretation. Not that any is needed as I never said anything regarding needing electricity to enjoy a holiday as you suggested.
Again you are making things up K, please show me where I said thinking about the cost of the electricity one is using as penny pinching? What I wrote was:
...especially compared to what one has paid already. If I had to worry about an extra 20 euros a day I wouldn't go in the first place.
And I'd rather pay than penny pinch and worry about all that. I just use what I need to enjoy my holiday, that simple really, life is too short.
Read the two parts in bold. See nothing about thinking about the cost of electricity one is using (nothing to think about - it is what is is) but rather worrying about the extra cost of 20 euros a day (I'm off soon shopping that will include a visit to Mrs C favourite -Costa where I'll easily send that on a few coffees and cakes).
Just use whatever you need to enjoy yourself, as I said life is too short to worry about 20 euros a day, especially on holiday (where it should have all costed out before hand?)
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Having read some of the recent comments I don’t know why members have to comment on how others spend their time away . Me , I just get on with my break and I’m not bothered how much electricity,gas,water ,petrol , diesel ,etc members use . Just enjoy it
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the point is not every continental site has such a generous included allowance and its very easy (in holiday mode) to rack up a large, unexpected for some, bill if using appliances exactly as you would on a CC site.
with 7 kw a day we could all be as cavalier as you but thats nearly twice as much as most manage on....
on your numbers, if using 7 a day you would have been charged for an extra 180kw over the 60 days....and at 40 cents each thats €72...a bit different.
in fact, i can have 12 Menu del Dias for that, eating out twice a week for 6 weeks.
...and yes, we do eat out.....lots, but as i described, its large electric appliances (certainly fridge) running all day every day that are the 'hidden' users.
my point wasnt about advising how folk should act on holiday, merely that i had discovered how 'expensive' it is to run the fridge on electric and that, should anyone be interested (obviously not you) when on a tightly limited KW allowance, this is the one that eats power all the time.
however, the issue on a CC site (to get back on topic) is not the total amount used (no limit) but whether there will be a limit placed on the supply at any one time...10 amps breaker has been mooted...although i doubt it.
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Ok please feel to call me Corners
Way too far OT so I'll refrain and not going to ask what is involved in your 3 months holidays and how it's not a holiday Dave.
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on your numbers, if using 7 a day you would have been charged for an extra 180kw over the 60 days....and at 40 cents each thats €72...a bit different.
But that's not really a lot is it? you make it sound like a lot but it isn't, it's less than one euro a day. And how much is that 72 euros as a percentage of your or one's holiday cost? Is it worth it? You could probably save just as much by other means.
But I agree why would the club do that? I assume there would be a cost involved about 200 sites at what, 50 bollards per site average? 10,000 bollards? How much per bollard, £1, £5...? You can do the arithmetic and to what end? Lower pitch prices?
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The OP was asking whether the Club was going to reduce the EHU supply to 10 amps. The answer is NO. Once you give people something you can’t take it away. Whether it should have been 16 amps in the first place, thus leading to caravans and motorhomes having unnecessary electric hobs etc., then that’s an entirely different question worthy of several threads.
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"Once you give people something you can’t take it away"
Goal posts are constantly being moved and also removed. Yes, things can be taken from us and are. If reduction in amps allows cars to be charged or helps the Eco cause then so be it for me and, I'm sure, many others. May help stop the wasteful selfish few!
What with things like population growth, amongst many other things, changes will have to happen, like it or not.
Maybe Mother Nature will sort it even despite our best efforts which some are failing to face up to.
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as you say, David, spending three months away (twice a year) along with other breaks means our 'home' in the UK is used for less weeks a year than its not.
where we are now we are most certainly 'living here' exactly as we do at home, we shop, we cook, we eat etc, with a 'living' budget as we do at home...
however, because of the change of location we are able to spend our days doing other things like cycling, hill walking, taking trips, eating out regularly etc, etc..
while its cheap to live here there are still site costs and over three months these rack up. an understanding of how different costs affect the overall total has nothing to do with penny pinching or other views, merely making the most of different systems.
at the end of the day (stay) we pay whats required, like everyone else, and look forward to the next time (september in italy and france) but my original post was merely to highlight how much power was being used by the fridge...
sorry if thst seems to have wound some folk up...please ignore if not applicable.
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f reduction in amps allows cars to be charged or helps the Eco cause then so be it for me and, I'm sure, many others.
Don't count on me presently. As firstly there are too few EVs on site to present a problem and just how well will their cope on 10amps. Secondly there are also few PHEVs
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our 'home' in the UK is used for less weeks a year than its not.
I know what I think you meant to say BB
my original post was merely to highlight how much power was being used by the fridge...
I find that, as KJ said, the fridge consumes a fair bit of gas.
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despite many long termers taking the time to try and explain, you still dont get it, do you?...or are you being deliberately obtuse?
this isnt your usual two weeks at Troutbeck Head.
90 days away with an extra €20 a day would add €1800 to that break, as ypu well know...and this level of extra cost would seriously impact on some.
but, like you, i guess if i had to worry about that, i wouldnt go, what would be the point
folk have different budgets to operate within and (oft) throw away remarks telling us all how cost is never an issue for you is a pretty poor form in my book.
shades of Harry Enfield, perhaps?
however, I'm sure Kjell would rather have this in his pocket than not...
as he says, we all 'know the ropes' and operate accordingly.
whilst not everyone has money to burn, its still possible to be away in a nice warm climate for many months, dining inexpensively in beautiful warm surroundings.
i know where id rather be in winter....and autumn
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