Best MHSP Ever - Should CAMC Follow Suit?
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The cc had to pay quite large damages some years ago to a "lady who broke an ankle when "tripped"on a m/v waste grid that had been newly installed to replace the full lift of covers, so with the litigation society we now live in , things can be more complicated and costly to "remedy "
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We do own a caravan but have hired a motorvan and I think I would find the new one at Hawes easy enough to line up with. I assume the manhole covers for the very few rigs that don't have cassettes, as you would not really want to deposit black waste onto the grid. As far as the sloping concrete types that BB refers to. These really are potential trip hazards if in areas where most CAMC disposal points are. In front of the toilet block. Ideally they would be in a separate area and then I agree scoping the concrete either side of the grid would be a good idea.
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When I was at refurbished Wharfedale last week, I queried the two manhole covers with the cheerful, helpful warden.
His answer was that they were for those large motorhomes, probably American sized, needing to do a direct black water waste dump, not something he had seen but might be around in the future.
The lateral grid could have been improved with an extra foot one way and two feet t'other, but hey come on, do we want improvements or Perfection ! Which Perfection would of course be out of date next year !!
Brian
P.S. I thought the grey water grid was much improved, not necessitating a copious application of Ibuprofen like some I've met !!
B
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I think we should be celebrating the fact that the Club is moving in the right direction with regards to the provision of motorhome service points. All the photos of the Club ones seem really excellent although them seem to differ a little in design. At least the water drains directly into the system rather than spilling out all over the place which will cause smells if people don't hose down afterwards which invariably they don't.
David
PS Doesn't the Director General have a motorhome so I am sure there is no shortage of knowledge of what is required?
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I've yet to encounter one of the new configurations but I am grateful I don't have to lift a manhole anymore.
David the DG owns a caravan, as far as I can see by looking at the "About Us" pages only one member of the Club council owns a motorhome. Its been like that for a long time.
peedee
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With as much respect as I can muster for a person whether they be caravanner or motorhomer I will say BB that when you have seen one and tried to use one then you may be in a better position to judge whether they are suitable. As a mere caravanner I have seen a new one in use and it seemed suitable.
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re: sloping drains.....the slope only needs be very shallow yet still do its job and divert water to the drain....we arent talking about Porlock Hill here...
Like DK I could imagine some getting 'close enough' and not rinsing off. Needless IMO as an observer
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Also I emphasise my above comment. If you look at the photo of the one at Hawes it is right in front of the TB, in an area people are going to cut through when not in use. Installing one of the types I have dumped my wastemaster down abroad. So have examined in detail, would not in my opinion be safe in this location.
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The long narrow drain in the OP with a large concrete catchment looks easy to dump but prefer to see a decent sized grid where waste goes in ..... not near. It would seem far more difficult to have any chance of hitting the actual grid on the one in the OP
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you, apparently, havent used any, but watched someone else use one.
hardly qualifies you as someone with an in depth understanding.
I'm negative!! You have not sampled a new CC set up (admittedly all to rare even now) nor have you seen one in the flesh or in use and yet know instinctively that it will not suit you whilst I have at least observed its usage. I am all for the improved provisions BB. Large concrete areas to catch detritus and narrow grids are not an improvement for general site users.
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I have come across a few where the waste grid and the water tap are both on the passenger side of the van. I think one was the CC site at New England Bay, and its in a one way part of the site. To get my waste over the grid, as it happens to be on the drivers side, I had to go the wrong way down the one way section... Naturally a warden was there, naturally he told me I was going the wrong way, but he was unable to suggest an alternative method of getting my waste tap near the grid.
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Allan,our experience is not what some of the "dark side newbies" think is relevant when it comes to the poorly designed waste outlets, that are fitted to the majority of motor caravans where ever they are made in europe, ,the USA leads the way in properly designed and made waste disposal methods, without the need for large financial outlays by the camp site operators to pander to poor vehicle design
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,although I don't have much of a problem dumping water ,I have a long hose