My dog doesn't need a lead.
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One major problem of "nervouse of dogs children", seems to be with some parents who when seeing a dog approach will pull the child/children away from the dog, and when the child is young can "trigger" in their mind that dogs are "evil" and the parent was probably treated the same when they were young, .one of our DIL(ex)was "afraid" of dogs and she was a prime example of making two of our grandchildren "scared" of dogs ,they were only allowed in our house if our dog was put outside,since she did not been come the grandchildren were all over our dog,
Another problem is parents who just allow their children to approach/run to a dog without asking first which when a dog is on its lead has nowhere to get out of the way if its not sure of what is going to happen and then goes into "defence mode"
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We spoke to a dog owner yesterday. Their dog was 10 years old and a very quiet animal. The owners told us the dog was a bit unpredictable and always kept on the lead because he was easily tempted to run after children because he wanted to play.
They had experienced children who teased the dog and this had caused the dog to become exited and bark at the children. On several occasions parents of the children had responded by telling the dog owners off for having a nasty dog.
The dog was in my opinion a lovely animal, always kept on the lead in public places.
If only they were all like that!
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Good post JVB
I see this every morning when i exercise my dogs. the local park is a short cut to the school.(and it's not the children, it's the adults as you say) My dogs are totally focused on their ball and ignore everything that is going on around them but on a daily basis I see people walk in and then walk out again or they will walk all the way around the perimeter.
On the odd occasion a child wants to pet them I always make a point of saying, yes that's fine but you must always ask first as not all dogs are like mine.
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From what the OP said it is dogs off lead on site nothing to do with nervous people,now if a dog bounds up to me off lead and gets thumped by me who is a fault, my walking stick is allways ready and I will not tolerate uncontrolled dogs in a leisure facility.once bitten twice shy.
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Returning to the OP, surely the position (rule) is absolutely clear - all dogs on a lead at all times when on the site (not on the dog exercise areas, where they exist, obviously. I would hate to see the day when the club brings in even more restrictive rules for the vast majority of responible owners, rather than tackling those who flout the rules - and that doesn't apply just to dogs incidentally!
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It's not the bounding up to me that concerns me most. One has ways of quickly convincing the dog itself that it was a bad idea.
It is the ones that come up and urinate on one's kit that trouble me - especially the wheels and wheel locks. When out of range of the walking stick a hand held air horn blast does seem to persuade them to stop mid stream and quickly be somewhere else.
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There are so many things I would like post but the rules prevent it.
This is just going round in circles now with non dog people making some silly statements IMO. I know I follow the rules on site and as I said previously all I have ever seen is fellow dog owning members doing the same.
Rowena, is it not about time this thread was locked,
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How about the saying, he's only playing....or he has never done that before
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Why are you trying to insight an argument ?
If you have an issue on a particular site, as Rowena has said, report it.
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I am a dog lover, previously a dog owner but I hate dogs running up to me all fussy. It's alright owners saying he only wants to be friendly, if I don't know the dog, how am I to know that. It makes no difference whether it's an ankle biter or an Irish wolf hound, it's loose and I don't know it. Dogs I love, stupid and irresponsible owners I have little time for.
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As a dog lover and the owner of a Heinz 57 variety (sadly now deceased and still very much missed) It is a sad state of affairs when you see notices pinned to the facilities, (Salisbury C&CC site) saying the number of dog fouling incidents on site had increased, so would owners please pick up the mess and also to keep them on leads, adding where they can exercise their dog, on the adjacent Hudson's field. I have never in 40 years of camping/caravanning, ever seen that before.
The few idiots spoil it for the majority responsible dog owners and it must be very disheartening for them to be tarred with the same brush, I know it would me if we had still had Pepsi.
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Please don't tar all dog owners as irresponsible! I have a large rescued dog that thinks everyone will love her but I do my utmost not to let her try that with anyone unless they make the first move! I fully understand that not everyone appreciates such behaviour. I was recently praised by a lady I met walking for keeping the dogs back, her body language screamed that she was scared of them but we had a very nice chat about local animal charities.
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Below is an extract from the Gov't site on the control of dogs. Since some owners think their pets are beyond the need to be controlled. The last sentence should make it clear that if any child feels threatened or worried, then the owner of a dog should apply the law and keep the dog on a lead around that child or person.
It’s against the law to let a dog be dangerously out of control anywhere, such as:
in a public place
in a private place, eg a neighbour’s house or garden
in the owner’s home
The law applies to all dogs.Some types of dogs are banned.
Out of control
Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:injures someone
makes someone worried that it might injure themPublic places are just that, places for the public not for dogs, as are the club sites. Well behaved and controlled dogs are allowed and welcome.
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Always the same with Fishermen, lines taut across public footpaths that are adjacent to rivers or piers by the seaside. With people ducking and diving to avoid the near invisible lines, or the hook from a backward swing having no regard for public safety.
Funny, in all walks of life there are some that don't follow common decency rules on sharing space with others, from fishermen to pedestrians who are totally engrossed in their phone.
It's quite simple really, if there is a ruling in place regarding a leash then follow it.
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Not forgetting-walking along beaches having to pick up lost/discarded line & hooks for the public's safety & WE bin them
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I am not a dog owner but I have the greatest respect for this four legged friend. Now perhaps someone can help me out. I am on site at the moment and am visited by my daughter and SIL who have a Patterdale terrier, which I have to say, is very well behaved- on a lead anyway! Now, my problem is this, Ted was tethered on his lead the other day after having been asked by the semi permanent resident to do so as she has a cat and no doubt if Ted got hold of a cat, the cat would cease to be. We left Ted for about 5 hrs with water , cool shelter etc while we went on a Chesil fishing trip. Are there any rules saying a dog can't be left unattended on a site?? A CL? People go to work and leave their dogs all the time. Have we transgressed? I can't find anything in the book that says we have. Thanks Guys and Gals.
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Merve I think the operative word here is 'tethered' when a Dog is at Home it is generally accepted that it has no escape route to then create havoc. Ted was 'tethered' outside I'm thinking which could not be a 'no escape route' scenario for a resourceful breed like the Patterdale. So the answer with info you've provided is I reckon it would be-you've transgressed yes.
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Excellent post and makes things very clear.
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Rocky makes a good point regarding escaping to create havoc, but even without escape, the cat could have wandered over to the dog or indeed a child or one of those dogs not tethered. Each could have risked an unwanted incident or just barking at passers by.
The dog was not under acceptable control in this case and I must ask why pay a visit to an area the dog is not familiar and then leave it for 5 hours, knowing you planned to go fishing. Why not leave it at home as you stated many go to work and leave the dog.
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My view on the OP is simple. The rule is clear. If someone doesn't want to comply with the clear request to keep dogs on a lead at all times on site then don't book the site in the first place.
My dogs are always either tethered while we are outside or in the van with us. If I can do it then everyone can. Someone else breaking the rules means that negative attention is brought to all dog owners and by far the majority that I've seen on site don't deserve negativity.
I have only come across one fellow camper who refused to tether her dog and left it outside most of the day. She would put the lead on if told to by the warden then she'd take it off again. I had no hesitation in reporting her then and I'd do the same again
So don't do it. Nobody is so special that they can bypass rules that are there for the comfort of all of us
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As a caravaner with 2 dogs I 100% agree with you.
What I do object to though is the manner in which some on here post, stating we are all guilty of breaking the rules which is so not true.
Even worse and despite trying to reason with them, is they refuse to accept that they are misguided and base their argument of a few isolated incidents.
Instead they just keep coming back and posting short, negative and inflammatory comments. which largely go un-moderated even when reported
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The last two posts are well stated and the correct sentiments. Perhaps you could ignore the obvious posters who do label all and respond only to the sensible posts. I try not to be dragged into conflict with the other end of the spectrum who are just as bad as the ones you refer to.
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Thank you. The dog is not aggressive, in fact, he is as friendly as any dog you could wish for. He was very well tethered and there was no chance of him escaping. However, if my daughter is guilty I will pass it on. But is there a rule that says one cannot tether a dog on site and leave it for a time??
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Yes Merve there is-the common sense rule. If the Dog(which had 5hrs) had got loose it could've been lost, it would certainly have been stressed. Dog lovers put their Dogs & other people's wellbeing first. Hope this helps.
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Five hours! If that's a wind up, Merve, it's in poor taste.
If I witnessed such an event I would have been contacting the RSPCA.
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