My dog doesn't need a lead.

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  • Bakers2
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    edited July 2017 #182

    Gosh Brue that wasn't nice. I'm very wary of dogs I don't know and that would have upset me greatly. Too late when the damage is done. Was it even fit to be out? Sounds like it needs a muzzle as well as a lead!

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2017 #183

    Our late Border Collie had when she came to us no hair round her neck or hair on most of her tail where she had been "tethered" all the timeyell

  • RoyandBev
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    edited July 2017 #184

     don't forget Ell's if you thing a goldfish is slippery you want to get hold of one of those slimey critters.

  • Milothedog
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    edited July 2017 #185

    Just come back from Henley Four Oaks CC site, I guess about 30% of the caravans / motorhome's on site had dogs with them. No dog walk on site, only a small fenced area for them to do their business in. No badly behaved dogs or owners among them and all dogs kept on a lead at all times when not in the designated area smile I've yet to witness these problems people keep posting aboutsmile

    The noise from the Red Kites and poo all the Rabbits left everywhere was a pain though smile

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2017 #186

    Milo - you've learnt what many of us have suspected for some time - CAMC sites and CT are virtually parallel universes! wink

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2017 #187

    Milothe dog.=You were in the countryside- what did you expect, used drug needles?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2017 #188

    so so true

  • Milothedog
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    edited July 2017 #189

    No, but shouldn't the club clear up after it's Rabbits undecided 

     

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited July 2017 #190

    The tiny few,, you are having a laff,majority more like😡

  • Bluemalaga
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    edited July 2017 #191

    "I've yet to witness these problems people keep posting about."

    Sorry Milo, but I find this very hard to believe. Perhaps as an owner you are less likely to be offended by the behaviours mentioned and therefore take less notice.

  • Justus2
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    edited July 2017 #192

    I think it all depends on if you are into dogs or not as to your reaction... e.g. we had some friends round at home on Sunday, they are ex dog owners, and the dog next door was yap yap yap yapping as it does in their garden.. Our friends reaction was what's he excited about. Mine was I have no idea but I wish they would shut it up...  I just find it really irritating.

  • Milothedog
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    edited July 2017 #193

    Maybe it's just the sites I have used to date,? But I have honestly not seen any problems so far. I am very conscious of my two Border Collies being well behaved at all times and have rehomed rescue dogs (6 to date and of various breeds) with all sorts of issues for nearly 40 years, so I like to think I know Dogs and their behavior and what is not acceptable. I fully understand that not everyone is a dog person and respect that as well.

    I can only speak as I find as they say.  but can absolutely assure anyone on here that has issues with unruly dogs / owners on club sites that it won't be from me or my two, and would never try and  defend it.

    Having said that, I do feel that those who do take issue, and have the right to, should accept that owners like myself are out there and I take exception to being labeled as one of the same group that cause this problem which some on here DOyell

     

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2017 #194

    We are now with our third rescue collie and as our last two so far she has not shown any form of being "unsociable" to anyone, but then dogs as children are only how the parent/guardian/owner has brought them up/trained them to be so

  • Milothedog
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    edited July 2017 #195

    I have had, over the years, a Labrador cross, Beagle cross, Jack Russell,  2 Collie Cross, and a Welsh Boarder Collie. I have also Forster'd a Westie 

    They have all been extremely well behaved and sociable, As you say JVB, they are what you make themsmile

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2017 #196

    I would agree JVB.  We are not doggy people, but we do not dislike dogs.

    Our friends in Wales have a lovely, though rather timid Labradoodle, he now recognises us when we visit once or twice a year and allows us to pet him.  He is well trained, though prone to jumping up on you as a welcome.

    In contrast, the in-laws have a bearded collie, who totally rules their lives and is pretty much allowed to do as she pleases.....jump up on furniture, take over the sofa, wander around and get underfoot in the kitchen etc.  One of them has to stay home with her most of the time or she gets upset.

    Their daughter has the sister to their dog, she is even more  spoiled, and appears to be a child substitute meantime.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2017 #197

    Some friends of ours have a dog that is the alpha of the house,but they cannot see she rules them

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  • Shuttleworths
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    edited July 2017 #200

    We have two Border Terriers, one can be a bit yappy, but he is very friendly. They are never unrestrained on sites and I have, albeit at on!y 10 CMC sites over the last 2 years, seen any other dogs wandering about unrestrained. The same does not apply on non-CMC sites though, in my very limited experience!

  • Merve
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    edited July 2017 #201

    That's how it should be Dave. The dog has to be trained , or made to realise that you the owner is the leader of the pack. If the dog is in front, it must be put behind to enforce that mindset. This is the reason the finger snapping took place- that dog was happy knowing that the pack leader was there and was taking their place. The barking nightmare had no sense of being subservient to its owner- they are a bit like kids- they need limits and discipline. 

  • RoyandBev
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    edited July 2017 #202

    It takes years to get a dog to that level of obedience, witness sheep dogs, bomb finders, rescue dogs drug dogs police, blind dogs the list is endless.

    Most ordinary people just don’t have the time to do all that but there are some basic command all dogs can and should be able to comply with.

    STOP, COME HERE, LEAVE IT, SIT, NO, DOWN, my 2 Springer’s will comply to these commands and a quite a few more and they are Springer’s, one of the most popular and high energy dogs.

    There is no excuse for any dog owner to not teach their dog these sort of basic one or 2 word commands (no matter what the breed or temperament they can all learn and if they haven’t any excuse the owner has is fooling themselves they just didn’t invest a bit of time it is also sun for owner and dog to learn basics).

     I suspect (I might be wrong) most the people posting here that are so outraged by some of the posts that preceded them have at least  this minimum level of control over their pet.

    I am afraid the minority of bad dog owners (despite a few here that think it is the majority of owners, this is just wrong if it was there would be 50 or 60 dogs running about barking on a 200 pitch camp site and that just isn’t so, they fit in with the minority of poor dog owners unreasonable).

    Just like irresponsible parents or party and noise loving people those that drive too fast on site these people will never read posts like this so you are never getting at them, frankly they couldn’t give a dam! They won’t give a dam about any anger or resentment and have no concept of everyone giving a bit so we all get along hand have a good holiday.

    They just don’t care 1 bit about your holiday or mine or anyone else’s just want to do what they want to do and dam the vast majority and will never accept anything else and frankly should not be part of a group or relatively like minded people like a caravan cub.

    Just my thoughts and of course as a reasonable sort of man I might be wrong

    Roy

  • Kennine
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    edited July 2017 #203

    Excellent and well presented post by Roy and Bev

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2017 #204

    Great post well thought out and so true with the commentssmile

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2017 #205

    Excellent post R&Bsmile. A well trained Dog is a joy, that is for both the Dog & the owner. Dogs need to please, well trained Dogs are an extension of the owner, they are confident in the knowledge they are pleasing that person, which then makes them calm.

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  • AndyH66
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    edited August 2017 #207

    Equally, the dog could have got tangled on the tether and strangled itself. It could have been stolen or any number of things. It happens. The majority of sites do have a rule which says dogs must not be left unattended. The reason for this is that it's in unfamiliar surroundings, and there's more of a safety risk when camping (even in a caravan) than there is at home where a dog is somewhere it knows.