My dog doesn't need a lead.
Hi
This is the first time i' ve written on this forum. I am sat outside my van at Hunters moon cc site. My concern is regarding members who do NOT think that their dogs should be on a lead.
I don't blame the club or any of the Wardens as I think they have enough to put up with but I have an issue with members who think that club rules do not apply to them.
The number of members who think that their pets don't need to be on a lead outside their outfit beggars belief.
This week I have come across at least half a dozen outfits, with a roaming dog outside the van who do not take any notice of their owner calling " fido come here" (this is an alias).
You may think I am not a dog lover but have had a dog since we joined the club 9 years ago. My dog, Simba, a chow chow, has to endure numerous uncontrolled dogs coming up to him, sniffing, barking, with the owners insisting their dog isn't normally like this with other animals. Fortunately Simba is mature enough to realise that the dog owners are arrogant individuals who think that rules don't apply to them and ignores their animals unwanted attention.
Does anyone else have the same problem as Simba or is it him that thinks this does not conform to site rules?
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Hmm I to seem to think it's happening more than it used to. On a club site last week I witnessed a caravan arriving with a couple and a dog. All out of the vehicle dog on lead and held, that changed, at some point as 2nd pair of hands required for the awning. Passing warden stopped to assist with awning and offer advice for easy sliding through the awning rail, and was heard to say the dog needs a lead and stake (for tethering purposes you understand) reply yes will do when we're sorted. Warden drove off on his tractor. We were some distance away but it was a still hot day and so we were in the shade of the van, may never have known otherwise. Dog caused no issues and pleasant couple. But why did it take over an hour before rules complied with? Why did warden drive away?
Whilst on a couple of commercial sites there were signs regarding loose dogs and damage to facilities. Non compliance you'll be asked to leave the site - no refund.
I do not have a dog issue 😆
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We have seen a few on site recently. No problem to us but there was one next to the tap last time and it was soaking wet - probably as it was so hot - and every time anyone went to the tap (including the warden cleaning) it rushed over. Not a problem to us but others would be justified in not wanting a soggy spaniel bounding up to them. The warden didnt say anything (I was at the tap at the time) but just fussed it and walked on.
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I've noticed dog owners strolling the sites with their off-lead dogs merrily wandering as and where they please – watering the shrubbery and wandering across pitches ------- and some of the dogs do it as well.
We have a different on-site problem with our dog – unaccompanied children, usually riding bikes, are forever asking if they can pat our dog, a very hairy laid-back Border Collie, and he's quite pleased to accept any patting and petting that he receives.
But the children keep coming back for more and to be quite honest it starts to get irritating when the same child reappears every fifteen minutes or so.
Should I tell them to s*d off, go and find another dog and its owners or send them to the naughty step?
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No excuse, 9 times out of 10 when I arrive on site the wardens give a polite reminder of the "on leads" rule. I have a Border Collie & Collie cross two of the most well mannered and obedient dogs you will ever encounter IMO. However there are only allowed to roam free in my Awning, if outside they are clipped to 10ft leads which I keep in the caravan all the time which are attached to the caravans front corner steady. they are quite happy to just sit and watch the world go by until they hear / smell food being prepared.
In fact they are so good that on a recent trip when in a local pub where we had lunch and a couple of pints. The people on the next table were amazed to see two dogs come from under our table when we got up to leave. they had been there for near on 2 hours.
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There are also rules about discharging dogs . . . .
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But they do have an area set aside for that
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Do you put me in that group ? if so you know as much about me and my dogs as I do about you, which is Zilch. so how can you make such a statement?
One of the biggest issues on forums are others judging people they know nothing about.
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Now there's a good idea!
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It's not a new thing, they even have a bin to put the discharge in
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As with Milothedog we have had dog under the table without others knowing and similarly with children asking get to pet whilst on site. We generally say no and explain why. Anyone who attempts to pet without asking is quietly told it's not good form (that comes from having cute dogs😉). I'm amazed how many people will pet without asking! Molly's mum I can so agree.
Dogs should be well trained as should children 😉😉😉. I have no issues with either when we'll behaved but I do when they are not 😇😇😇
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Ah, never miss an opportunity to set up an "us versus them" confrontation do you, Fisherman?
Maybe a little thought would convince you of how ridiculous your statement actually is. I think you'd find, if you took the time to talk to them, that dog owners who follow all the rules are the people who are most likely to be really annoyed by those owners who couldn't care less. Our two are never off the lead anywhere on site, other than the allocated dog areas, never stray off our pitch and only bark when they know we're getting ready to take them for a walk, even then, once their leads are on they are quiet. We get really irritated by folk not following rules just as much as anyone else - please do not tar us all with the same brush.
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For balance, whilst I can understand the sentiment it can also the case that parents often show the same approach to their children's behaviour, and that includes unapproved patting of pets etc.
However, we have had problems with lead free dogs whose owners don't seem able to accept that their dog, however well behaved, is an issue.
Two of our Grandchildren have problems with dogs. One is frightened of dogs and the other, more seriously, being very allergic and it saddens me that on occasion the only way to get through to the dog owner is to be rude as they often ignore any attempt to explain and instead try to tell you how wonderful their dog is.
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He is autistic and frightened of many animals. This is, however, a great improvement since the days that he was terrified of animals, people with glasses and many other things.
As I said, some people just can't seem to accept simple, reasonably expressed information.
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"Its always the same with dog owners"
"Its always the minority that attracts the attention"
With respect and I appreciate and respect that you are not a Dog lover . but from this and other posts you are contradicting yourself.
My car has a very distinctive registration number, It's a green Freelander. If you ever see it on a club site please come over and introduce yourself. maybe we could share a beer and find some common ground
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That's a bit of an unfair comment AD, but never mind.......
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A few years ago I was asked to put Molly the Mutt on a lead while walking her in my local country park (Burrs) by this woman because her two sons were 'frightened of dogs'. I refused. She was most put out. I suggested that a Saturday afternoon in Burrs was the last place to take two kids with a fear of dogs as there would be dozens of dogs doing exactly as Molly was doing. We can't expect to know when & where we might upset someone ..... and some, it seems, are easily upset.
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''For balance, whilst I can understand the sentiment it can also the case that parents often show the same approach to their children's behaviour, and that includes unapproved patting of pets etc''
We have once had a situation where the dogs were outside, with a bed, which they were lying on quietly - tethered. A toddler was allowed to walk onto their bed and actually sit on one of them! Luckily they just looked bemused and horrified and waited for us to rush out and sort it out. They were at the back of the pitch, tethered to the fence and are large dogs. No word of an apology from those in charge of the child but can you imagine the furore if the child had been bitten - the PC brigade instantly saying they were vicious and should be PTS even though it wasn't their fault.
This is one reason why we very rarely tether them outside.
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"We can't expect to know when & where we might upset someone ..... and some, it seems, are easily upset."
The OP was quite clear in referring to sites where the rules are that dogs should be on leads so you would know. Not sure who you mean by 'easily upset' as you can't mean a child with autism can you?
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Well said MM, I do love the way the posters on here, show a balanced outlook on thread topics
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Stop moaning and report such problems to the warden and to H.O. if they don't do anything about it.
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Hi everyone,
If you do ever see instances of dogs off lead please do report to the site staff so they can speak to the dog owner/s. We want to ensure everyone has a good time on Club Sites which is why we have the rules in place.
I have removed a couple of comments as we ask that people please keep the discussion friendly and constructive, despite differences of opinion, and ask that people keep this in mind when posting on Club Together.
Many thanks.
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