Have CAMC over priced some sites
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I've just been checking back on our site fees for our month long trip "over there". It was the largest single expense, surpassing both fuel and food costs. Having said that, had I toured the UK and spent a month using CAMC sites exclusively, site fees would have been somewhere around double what I paid. CAMC sites may be OK for a few days here and there but costs become, IMHO, prohibitive if being used for prolonged periods. Others may, and I'm sure will, disagree.
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Not at all, CY. As BB said only the other day, site fees, as many other costs, are less "over there". It seems to be a fact of life (once you've paid to get there). But totally irrelevant as far as club versus commercial UK site fees are concerned.
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And I've posted numerous examples to back that up, but just in case:
From Friday I'll on a club site where a pitch for a couple comes at £34.80 with each kid add £1, exactly 4.4 miles away is the Quiet Site where the a pitch will come in at £45 couple plus up to 4 kids.
Dogs at £1, extra car at £5 (free of course on club sites as you may know) plus a minimum of 5 nights at this BH weekend. Plus deposit of £10 per night and if you cancel anytime before 14 days you basically lose that due to an admin charge of £10 per night, within 14 you lose everything (insurance advised). Oh and children are 15 and under while on club sites it is 17 and under, so a family with two 16 to 17 year olds comes in at £55, plus dog fees.
As they used to say in Alias Smith and Jones, you call that a good deal?
(Peak dates are the same as the club)
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Nowhere near enough, apparently!!
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And for once I agree with you too.
You may find this strange, or hard to believe but my loyalty to the club would disappear if the club didn't provide exactly what I want. It is a simple as that, I am 'loyal' to a brand while it gives me what I want or need.
The club does so and has done so for many years, and I would suggest to many others who keep returning to its sites.
Why some struggle to accept that I've often wondered about?
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Wellys and Mac, I’d give up on this one, you’re just feeding the group of smart-arse, indulgent individuals on this site who’ve got nothing better to do.
Did you perchance mean 'self indulgent individuals' or were you afraid that such a description would include yourself?
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"It's pointless entering into a tit for tat example round. The fact is as others have said for the most part CC Ltd prices are very close to commercial sites..."
Well, there we are, then 37 pages on and we've got some acknowledgement about club prices. But since you insist on using the term "CC Ltd" it suggests you accept the "club" is actually a commercial organisation so the "non profit making" is a bit of a no sequitur, surely?
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Probably not, but that £52 is worth having access to 2000+ CLs.
The canny amongst us get it back of course via offers and deals that the Club has negotiated. I saved £20 for example last week at Mountain Warehouse, merely by flashing a card.
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you don't have to pay £52 to go to many club sites either.
Again not forced to join are you?
Actually the membership fee the club for nearly 20 years has cost me nothing. Details on request.
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I wonder if HQ is monitoring Trust Pilot reviews? Quite a few mention how they find Club Sites expensive.
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As W&M said, and indeed JVB, purely as an example of what some of the youngsters are earning, which means they probably can afford CAMC peak prices, not that our daughter and family have a caravan. They cannot even use ours as it is too heavy to tow on their licences.
But also to say that not all of those high earners are happy to pay those prices, or spend the sort of money that JK has heard of.
As it happens, I underestimated their income!
Personally speaking, we have way less than this, even way way way less! Despite CS insisting that we can afford Club prices, how he can claim to know what we can afford is a mystery to me!
We all have our own limits, and our own priorities, we like to help out our children, mainly with house deposits and DIY, which I am good at.
So we do look at value for money and find CAMC sites lacking in this respect as far as we are concerned.
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You cannot compare different countries like that
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Turn that around ask ask why should they be more like site prices abroad? The only logical answer is that it would suit you and others.
I won’t insult your intelligence by listing the myriad reasons why prices are different.
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So.....the £50 per day quoted does include everything such as ferries, insurance, food, sites, sightseeing.......of that sites abroad will be about £17 on average per night. We would go for at least 2 months,abroad, 1 month in UK, hopefully longer.
Not so long back CS that you said lots of us "even KJ" about something, something to do with affording CAMC site prices, cannot find it now but sure you can!
As it happens, I kept track of our last 35 nights, approx, away in UK in June/July. We went from Glasgow to Ayr, Galloway, the Lakes, North Wales, mid Wales, South Wales, Cardiff, and Peak District. Yes, we do travel quite considerable distances.
We visited only NT properties, free as we are members, or other no cost destinations, we ate lunch out when at NT properties, expensive usually, compared to little restaurants, but we think of it as supporting them, we tried to be pretty frugal in our choices. We ate lunch out on about 5 other days. Dinners we ate in the van. This is the same sort of pattern we follow abroad, eating lunch out if we are out for the whole day.
I expect we could have saved a bit by taking sandwiches.
We used a mix of CAMC sites (2), CCC sites(3), and CLs (3).
Including sites, fuel, food and sightseeing, the average cost was almost exactly £50 per night, there were no ferries or insurance required, this is an important point as the extra cost of these is often brought up when other people say how much less it costs to tour abroad.
If we had used only CAMC sites, the average cost per night would have been much higher. Our budget is to average £50 per night or, hopefully less. The less per night the more we can be away. The budget does only stretch so far.
Our £6k allocated holiday budget is projected to cover 4 months away, not a "spend it and never mind how long we can be away" approach.
If we were paying Club prices per night, on a budget of £50 per night we would have to choose between either distance travelled, food purchased, or buying lunch when out and about, to keep to that amount.
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