Have CAMC over priced some sites

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  • JVB66
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    edited August 2019 #392

    I was referring to my post earlier but as AD will insist on it seem not reading other post before coming out , with the usual  over ther comparisons , when the OP was about UK prices, and my UK loss leader holiday camps post

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2019 #393

    It got me circa £3000 of the price of my X trail 5 years ago. So I think I'm in credit for a few years yet.😀👍

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2019 #394

    And how many night stay to get that price ?surprised 

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited August 2019 #395

    Fortunately most posts have been on this discussion which I appreciate but there have been a few posts reported. Thanks to all those who are keeping the conversation going constructively. smile

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #396

    Bet it cost more than the £18,500 I paid for mine 14 years ago. laughing

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #397

    Really it is pointless comparing UK costs with Europe with regard caravan holidays. I suspect that go for 3 weeks EU is dearer or go for 12 weeks and cheaper. It is interesting though. 

    What is relevant is only UK costs unless wanting to get more bang for your bucks on long stays. In reality most folk I suspect tour in Europe simply because they want to and those in UK the same. 

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2019 #398

    "Peak prices (abroad) are often more, taking that from other sources as we do not travel in peak times, but off peak prices, such as listed by ACSI, are considerably less."

    I have inserted the word abroad in the quote for clarity.

    That is a very interesting point, Kj. But you seem to be saying the club should reflect this pricing structure - i.e. put up prices in peak (penalising those - mainly younger families - who can only go at those times) in order to reduce prices off peak which of course would advantage you and me and most older members. But equally, many folk on here complain about sites being full of pensioners and not doing enough to attract younger families. A difficult conundrum to solve, I'm sure you'd agree?

  • Rufs
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    edited August 2019 #399

    once you have bought the card you can stay for as little or as long as you like, well until the card runs out, but you can always buy new card, we normally stay for 4-5 weeks during April - June, the bonus card is not valid during peak so for a couple of days over Easter you have to pay more, i think 10 euro's. Also you can book for just 3 nights to see if you like site and if you would like to buy bonus card, if not for you , you pay full price and leave. Pretty sure card is valid for 2 years so you can stay for 2 weeks 1 year, return the next and use up your card. For me caravaning is about just going, i will worry about the cost when my bank account is looking shaky, cant be doing with all this analaysis of costs, the only thing i check is MPG only because i put trip to zero before going on tour and just check when returning, my Sorento towing Coachman Amara shows  33mpg over a trip, towing/not towing and that is as good as it gets.   

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2019 #400

    "I am on my 12th day away right now and have been spending my days in a very similar fashion to KJ so thought I would check my spend. So far it is working out at £70 per day...."

    Wow! £70 a day? What on earth do you find to spend that much on, PD? smile

  • Rufs
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    edited August 2019 #401

    crikey, paid £18k for my 2013 Sorento, was 2 years old when bought with 12K on clock, bargain. Never bought a new car laughing, thats why i can afford to pay club site fees without quibble, well in conjunction with site vouchers people buy me

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2019 #402

    “Wow! £70 a day? What on earth do you find to spend that much on, PD?”

    Metered electricity? 😀🤭

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #404

    +1

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #405

    likewise here, got £1000 of accessories for my KIA, which btw I got after all the prices were agreed, which took care of the factory fitted tow bar and full electrics, car mats, full tank of fuel, extra inside lights, and various other things.

    Also got £45 off a jacket at Cotswold Outdoors last Christmas.

  • peedee
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    edited August 2019 #406

    That was a rough tally and includes everything I have spent since setting out, fuel, site fees, food, eating and drink out, parking, entrance fees etc. When I get back I'll do a more accurate check and even compare it with my last similar length of trip "over there" and post again. Right now I do not have access to my full records.

    peedee

     P.S. Its fined up so I am off to the local for a pint and lunch.

     

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2019 #407

    +1

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2019 #408

    That will be interesting. Thank you. But presumably site fees are a relatively small part of that expenditure. Just reflecting the more  expensive level of day to day living "over here "  not being restricted to site fees. smile

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #409

    I have seen sites offering 7 nights for 5 David but that is pretty useless to me. I doubt that the majority spend anything like 21 nights on a site in UK. The longest that I have spent on a pitch other than our Christmas chillout was about 14 years ago when I was feeling burnt out and spent two weeks walking fairly local to that site. 

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2019 #410

    Well they do offer seasonal pitches at some sites. Our 3.5 months last year would have worked out a between £5 and £6 a night, if we had stayed all possible. Not bad with facilities and 16 amp electric.😀

  • Rufs
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    edited August 2019 #411

    has anybody considered this formula

    Prices increased...level of occupancy decreased...revenue remains constant/increases even though level of occupancy has decreased. i.e. increase in price balances out decreased occupancy.

    as a result of decreased occupancy, less site maintenance, e.g. only 1 toilet block open instead of 2, less pitch maintenance, possible reduction of wardens, e.g. 2 instead of 4 on some sites, all possible especially off peak, leads to further increase of a holding of the revenue.

    we know patterns are changing e.g. more people with caravans in particular who only use for perhaps 4 - 6 weeks per annum, are prepared to pay high pitch fees for possibly 6 people for 2 week stay on a site with lots of facilities especially for children, some may venture off into France for a 2 week break but not much further. My daughter/hubby/3 children just returned from site near Nantes fully svcd pitch includes on suite toilet/shower with sink, fridge/freezer/2 hob burner, small water park/swimming pools, before anybody asks, no i have know idea how much they paid, they have very old caravan that the used primarily for sleeping in, game on laughing 

     

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #412

    At the time I was looking at buying one 2 years old. Asking prices were around £15,500 to £16,000. So when I found the deal from Hartwells I went for it. Included paint and fabric treatment. Met a chap with the same colour car bought the same time from another Hartwells garage also in RAF blue colour. We reckon they were probably a cancelled orders as there were a lot of defence spending cuts and I saw a couple looking like the army green colour at around the same time. To buy new was therefore a no-brainer.

  • Goldie146
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    edited August 2019 #413

    As farmers we are restricted for when and how long we go away. This year a miracle happened - we had eleven nights. All on one site (shock horror - New England Bay). I know how much the site fees were (£25 pn), and roughly the diesel, and two meals out. And surprise surprise we've joined the £50 club!

    I haven't included food and drink as we eat and drink at home (more drink, less food while away). Nor the new books I bought to take.

    Next year is looking very busy already, so it will be just the odd day or two.

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #414

    Patterns are changing.

    I can quote example after example of caravan owners, some members, who have not used theirs, or even selling as the alternatives are wide and varied in price.

    Michelle and I dont have a 9 to 5 lifestyle, as such weekend and holidays are hugely important, we maximise our time together as such, we plan.

    Next year we have looked at all options settling for, keeping the seasonal pitch, that's weekends sorted, the ones Michelle's not working.

    Our 4 holidays, spreading 3x1 week and 1x2 week, primary lodgings holiday cottages, secondary as a back up if nothing available for whatever reasons  the caravan, being sited on any site, club or non that takes our fancy.

    The rise in the amount of holiday cottages over 6 years since we last used them, with prices at the bottom end not that much more than a caravan site, makes using the caravan or even owning one seem more and more redundant.

    As far as discounts, bought two cars in June, 1 was 10 month old, from a main dealer discounts given on both car and towbar, t'other under 3 years again discounts 

    Shop discounts, pretty easy to get from the net, also my workplace has a scheme, 8% seems to the norm, from Asda to Argos to holidays etc.

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  • Justus2
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    edited August 2019 #418

    We usually stop for 3 to 5 nights before moving on, sometimes only a couple of hours away since changing to a MH. When we had a caravan it was usually seven nights max.

    Just had a look at some of the daily spends which people are quoting. They are well above what we spend which is usually about £40 per day, but that doesn't include any food or drink as we always eat in the van so spend exactly the same at home or away with very little change. The £40 is made up of max £25 site about £15 fuel per day. We don't eat or drink out, visiting pubs and lunches out is just not something we ever do really, we take a picnic with us if we don't go out in the van, and maybe an occasional ice cream. We are away around 90 nights per year so that's £3600 plus £1200 per year running costs on top of that.

  • MikeyA
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    edited August 2019 #419

    At the end of the day, whether it costs more to holiday in this country on CAMC sites or not, I would prefer to holiday abroad than in this country. 

    My reasons are:

    I've been to lots of places here before - I have still masses of places abroad that I have not been to which are still accessible with a car/caravan or motorhome.

    The weather is generally far better.

    It is different

    I'm not saying Britain is bad ( we still tour here) but once I've seen Cirencester/Whitby wherever I don't need to go there again for a long time.

    Life is short and there is so much to experience in the rest of the world. Britain is too small of an island to "have it all"

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #420

    Wont wash.

  • huskydog
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    edited August 2019 #421

    Try a stronger detergent wink