Covid - news and views
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Me too, I've been following the SA data and the Dr that first brought it to the world's attention.
Yes its highly transmitable but serious illness should be less (unless you are not vaccinated)
There was a news announcement this morning that NSW in Australia are considering charging (for medical care) those unvaccinated folk if they require hospital treatment. Not confirmed yet but I bet it focuses some folks minds.
We've been say for a long time now that at some point we are just going to have get on and live with it. I think we are very close to that now in the UK.
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I think they are still analysing the data. SA has a lot of other endemic illnesses, HIV and TB and a younger population, life expectancy is much lower. Much depends on the prevailing circumstances here and in SA, they're different.
Covid has spread rapidly in our family this week, adults and children. Luckily not our nearest ones.
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It doesn’t matter much that Omicron is less deadly. If it can infect twice as many people as delta, then the end result is going to be about the same. In fact it poses more of a threat because increased infections take more key workers out of circulation, the type of people who keep the UK going every day.
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Being a realist with experience, rather than a cynic, I suppose that is why the isolation time has been cut from 10 to 7 days-its all very well having rules but, once they become a pain, well......................just change them.
As TG mentioned, at some point lock-downs, lockd-own light, circuit beakers, HMG saying carry on-just be so careful that you cant actually carry on etc etc, will have to give way to accepting that we have, with the help of vaccinations etc, going to have to get on with it.
I am not saying everything will, or should be abandoned rather that the more strident calls for restrictions will be met with less and less willingness to be either implemented or followed.
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The job of a virus is to spread, but I have no idea why and for what reason. It can't do that if it kills it's host. In the past to that end they have adjusted in two ways, becoming more transmissible but less virulent. My finger are crossed in the hope of this being a change that will be like that.
Unfortunately the more unvaccinated people that catch, incubate, and allow the virus the opportunity to mutate the greater the risk that a more lethal variant will emerge again accidentally. We need to vaccinate the world.
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Following on from Tammygirls earlier post , I believe Singapore has brought in the procedure of "NO vaccine no free medical assistance" if COVID is contracted. Personally I think it's an excellent idea , and one our government should adopt..
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Then they should vax up, social distance & wear a mask in crowds. I know many who do that & they’re still working without Covid-it ain’t rocket science it’s just following the rules. If folk are happy collecting Darwin awards I can’t stop them🤷🏻♂️
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You are unbelievable! You brought up Vatican City rules and now accuse me of "dragging religion" into the discussion. Where have I done that. I should have known better than to even attempt to disagree with you in what I thought was a reasonable way. Fortunately most other posters seem capable of disagreeing respectfully.
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A more appropriate question for our times might be…. should people who are in chronic pain or suffering with life threatening/limiting conditions have to pay for private treatment rather than wait excessive periods on waiting lists created, in part, by people who’ve failed to take personal responsibility for protecting themselves from Covid?
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Have been told by a nurse on the Covid ward at hospital that is local to me most are over weight. She got Covid and ended up in hospital she has had both jabs .now out of hospital but not back at work yet.she told me would be trying to lose some weight
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As a realist with……………..oh, I did that earlier.
Whilst I can see the frustration, anger even, at what many see as selfish, unthinking behaviour of some, I accept that in order to maintain certain things, such as healthcare being free for all at the point of delivery, I will just have to accept that this will lead to frustration at the behaviours of some &@“#=-% people!!0 -
Perhaps do what has been proposed by the NSW state legislature....charge those that are in hospital with Covid but haven't been vaccinated for the care provided!
Edit Have just read TG's post on the same subject, but not any responses yet.
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I think Aussie healthcare is funded by insurance to a lesser or greater degree from conversations I’ve had with family over there, so if it’s true they’ll be paying for it anyway🤷🏻♂️
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The Australian healthcare system, Medicare, is funded by the tax payer but members of the population can purchase additional services provided by private hospitals etc.
From yourworldhealthcare.com
What is Medicare?
Medicare is the universal healthcare system in Australia and the primary form of access to healthcare services in the country. The system is publicly funded (Taxpayers in Australia pay 1.5 percent of their income to Medicare. However, if you're a higher earner, you can pay 2.5 percent).The service is operated by the Department of Human Services and gives Australian residents access to subsidised treatment from a wide range of healthcare professionals, including medical practitioners, midwives and allied health professionals throughout the country.
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Sorry but I just cannot accept anything where a sick person does not receive treatment no matter what the cause. And charging someone for medical treatment is equally abhorrent to me (yes unless they want to pay of course as in going private)
People get ill from alcohol, smoking... where is the line drawn?
Just my personal view.
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The founding principal of the NHS is very simple. Medical care for all, free at the point of delivery. Whether your lifestyle and choices make you more or less likely to need medical care is irrelevant to the provision of that care. Attempting to change that would be a very dangerous thing to do.
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+1
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Sorry to hear that, you too.
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