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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited November 2021 #1532

    I wonder if virologists even understand that fully? It seems that a virus will mutate in order for it to latch onto more hosts. The more it mutates the more likely that errors will occur along the way which could, of course, go either way. The evidence from SARS Corona Virus 1 suggests it will burn itself out by trying to be too clever? There is already a new Japanese mutant that seems to be going down that route. All a bit wishful thinking until we get a clearer picture of what the impact of the latest South Africa version does?

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  • JVB66
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    edited November 2021 #1533

    It see s it is only in certain areas that suffer from long queues ,,we had our booster in Norfolk on a Sunday morning and if we had not been there the staff would have been twiddling their thumbs,  while waiting the 15mins to see if we had a reaction another elderly couple arrived

    And a Young couple for their first jab

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  • peedee
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    edited November 2021 #1535

    There was more on this on the Andrew Marr show >here<

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  • brue
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    edited November 2021 #1536

    One of the problems is that viruses can remain "structurally intact" outside the host which is why handwashing and santisers are so important. Just hope people keep up these regimes.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2021 #1538

    The Lady is an expert Doc so I reckon it is what she says. The tiredness will be an issue for sure long covid & then some. I like the name-omicron it suggests small👍🏻

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2021 #1539

    When you see the antics of the two who left quarantine to board a plane to Spain whilst positive, there is no way the variant will not spread.

  • brue
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    edited November 2021 #1540

    There must be a rush for boosters, I checked for our daughter, the on line queue to book was over 1000 and the nearest venues were 30-50 miles away. Local places didn't have boosters available.

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  • Wherenext
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    edited November 2021 #1542

    I see the boss of Moderna has cast doubt on the efficacy of vaccines on the Omicron variant. He should know or at least know someone who does.Let's hope that the range of vaccines still provide an effective barrier to serious illness et.

  • peedee
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    edited November 2021 #1543

    News conference at 1600hrs today. It looks like we will be told not to socialise over Christmas with those we do not particularly need to?

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  • LLM
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    edited November 2021 #1544

    Only X millions to do before the end of January.  Just been offered shifts starting in a couple of weeks. 12 hrs on, 12 hrs off, 12 hrs on, X hrs off, 6 hrs on, and repeat.  What fun smile.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited November 2021 #1545

    You can do it, LLM, we have every faith in you and the other volunteers. 👍

  • JohnM20
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    edited December 2021 #1546

    Isn't it strange the high number of under 40's (approximately) that are apparently exempt from wearing face masks in shopping centres as seen yesterday. I would have expected it to be some of the older generation who may be exempt.undecided

  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2021 #1547

    Indeed. The 'best' was seeing a bloke with his yellow sunflower lanyard round his neck and fag in hand .... 🤐 But most of the masks I saw yesterday were worn around chins or just over the mouth .... as much as I'd prefer not to wear a mask, I do try to play by the rules for the hour it takes to go round the supermarket.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #1548

    Our grand daughter when not at Uni works in our local Tesco supermarket

    She said there were quite a few "younger?" shoppers  that were exempt from mask wearing,  when the boss of Tesco beefed up the security staff ,,very many of those who said they were exempt  starting wearing face coverings

    The staff at our local coop store ,were reticent to ask shoppers to wear face coverings as they were already at times having problems with shoppers 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #1549

    That has its upsidecool

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2021 #1550

    If the store owners/managers are willing to put money before their customers well-being there isn’t much can be done other than boycott the store👍🏻. I do my thing & let others do theirs, I’m don’t see myself as a ‘mask enforcer’ I’ve seen the nastiness of masks vs freedom in the USA & it’s not good, I’d hate that to happen here🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Rufs
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    edited December 2021 #1551

    Did not quite stack up that way thankfully, but good to see the right hand still does not know what the left is doing still, long may it continue laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #1552

    I think it is a case of what abuse staff already get from some members of Joe publlc without the added stress of getting face coverings usedundecided

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2021 #1554

    My post covers that JV-ban em, bar them for as long as it takes them to apologise & commit to decent behaviour or a lifetime ban will ensue👍🏻

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2021 #1556

    Hope you are getting £12 a shot, like the doctors!!!!!

  • SeasideBill
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    edited December 2021 #1557

    Several folks have reported that supermarket delivery slots are becoming scarce again? We used them last lockdown as we were also shopping for a couple of neighbours, but then reverted to ‘click & collect’ which works so well we’ve stuck with for the most part. I hate shopping at the best of times and just turning up while somebody stuffs it all in the boot is great. 

    Up until recent times I’ve known relatively few people with Covid, but all of sudden there seems to be loads, young & old including a death.  Most have had at least 2 jabs which is worrying. It’s certainly focussed my mind on avoidance strategies again.

  • brue
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    edited December 2021 #1558

    Supermarket slots are always full at this time of the year, so I expect there is an extra scramble taking place.

     

    Our village village has covid cases, indoor events cancelled. frown

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2021 #1559

    I tend to agree. I think it easy for people to pontificate about what shops staff should do without realising they could be putting themselves in danger. Our local Co-Op has about half a dozen staff in at anyone time and they just don't have the numbers to police it. Larger stores have security guards and they are in a better position to control things. Shop staff come in for enough abuse in normal times let alone during the pandemic. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2021 #1560

    Case rates are very high again. Some folks forget that having all the jabs doesn’t stop you getting Covid, or transmitting it if you do get it, the jabs are there to help you from dying from it.

    It’s common sense and taking care that helps to prevent catching it, that and a pinch of luck. 

    I’m getting mixed messages at the moment. Desperate to ramp up the jabs, but hey, it’s ok to have a party......really?🤷‍♀️

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2021 #1561

    It would seem Sage are pushing for the reintroduction of pre departure tests and day 8 as well as 2 for returning travellers. It tends to suggest they are worried.