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  • LLM
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    edited June 2021 #842

    Such a shame that a thread which started and continued well for so many pages and weeks has now degenerated into such stupidity, childishness and rudeness. 

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    edited June 2021 #843
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  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2021 #844

    Another topic hijacked

  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #845

    I think the advice, not to respond to trolling is sensible.

    Hope the thread can get back on track. smile

     

  • Metheven
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    edited June 2021 #846

    I am one who welcomes the extended period until July, I can still enjoy the amount of freedom this period has allowed, so another four or so weeks to vaccinate as many as possible is no hardship.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #847

    No, it means I made my mind up. 

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    To return to the topic, again, I'm with Meth 100%. I said way back that the extra 4 weeks was both inevitable and sensible. There is evidence now that younger people are spreading the virus so it's clear there's an urgent need to vaccinate those folk before further easing of restrictions.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2021 #848

    I read that David and still hold out hope. I have not yet amended our September booking. However, with us having the highest rates in Europe as of June the 14th, particularly in relation to France. I fear it might be more a case of them deciding they do not want us and reimposing a quarantine period. Particularly as our cases are almost exclusively the Indian variant.

    The European countries with the highest rate of new infections are listed below. The figures are the rolling seven-day average for new confirmed COVID cases per million, up to 14 June.

    UK 107
    Spain 105
    Latvia 92
    Belarus 90
    Russia 84
    Denmark 78
    Netherlans 77
    Sweden 77
    Greece 72
    Slovenia 71
    Portugal 71
    Lithuania 67
    France 58
    Belgium 65
    Cyrpus 63
    Ireland 62

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  • heddlo
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    edited June 2021 #850

    Sad to read today that Cornwall is being asked to ‘treble its efforts’ to reduce Covid numbers.  We are here at present and sadly we can see all too well why numbers are increasing and I do hope we aren’ t adding to that!!  We are trying to only visit quiet, limited number places but even Trelissick gardens cafe was fairly rammed a few days ago; we didn’t get to see the garden as there seemed too many people around so after coffee we left.  So far have only driven through St. Mawes and decided it was too busy to use the Co-op and I wouldn’t get out of car!  We drove through Perranporth recently, same there absolutely packed, no face masks in evidence and no social distancing anywhere.  Sorry holidaymakers but responsibility doesn’t end at home!!! 

  • mylo
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    Sorry but you are adding to it should of stayed in Yorkshire sorry holiday maker but your responsibility stay at home save life’s 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #852

    Thankyou, Heddlo, for recognising the problem and acting accordingly. Infection rates in the county are rising sharply and influx of people is the major cause. Thousands came here in connection with the G7 and positive tests were found. Holiday makers are also arriving all the time and may be adding to the rise in rates but they are also putting themselves at risk as you have realised.

    I'd suggest avoiding the seaside towns for food shopping but try more inland places such as Camborne, Redruth, St Austell, Launceston. Shops such as the Co-op and Lidl are often less crowded than the big supermarkets. Evening shopping is quieter too.

  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #853

    I hope the situation improves TW, Cornwall did well after last years holiday influx but I suppose we have a much more virulent Covid virus at present so not so easy to control. I think I'm right in saying that one person with the Delta strain can infect six people? But I've also read that the outbreaks are levelling off in some areas so let's hope that will be the case everywhere as vaccinations increase and immunity builds up.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #854

    Cornwall did do OK last year, all things considered, but we are presently at the top of the SW league table for infections. I, too, grasp at the straw of outbreaks levelling off.

    The only good thing is that vaccinations appear to be largely preventing hospitalisation. Our NHS resources would be overwhelmed otherwise and we'd not even be at this level of easing lockdown. A four week extension would not be on the cards if we were in that state and realising that shows us how far we've travelled down this treacherous road.

  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #855

    Yes and you're in an area with one main hospital that has to cope with all the holiday accidents and emergencies too. People forget these things when they're having a good time.

  • heddlo
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    edited June 2021 #856

    Yes, maybe you are right.  Although when we booked, and arrived here, the Covid numbers were good.  We may well leave early but in the meantime I hope we are being responsible for our actions. 

  • Pliers
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    edited June 2021 #857

    I think a lot of areas are really busy at the moment. We’re normally in Spain / France from late May to early July, but this week we’re in Hawes.

    The campsite is pretty full, Hawes village is absolutely rammed, but a walk in any direction, and you’re out in beautiful countryside with just sheep for company.

    Hope you enjoy Cornwall, in spirit of the crowds. 🙂

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #858

    Heddlo, you are allowed to be here. Although we (residents) may sometimes wish for fewer people to be in the County, I’m sure we realise how important you are to our economy.

    What was despicable, was the sneaky way people broke lockdown rules to visit the area which was worrying and frustrating but things are different now and we have more freedom. The only thing that matters is that visitors act sensibly with regard to gathering and wearing face coverings. Personally, I'm staying away from busy places and crowds whether here or elsewhere.

  • Pliers
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    edited June 2021 #859

    As far as I’m aware, this is not the Government’s current legislation.

    There are no lockdown restrictions in England, local or wherever, people are free to travel as they wish.

    It’s just foreign travel that is restricted. For now, anyway....🙂

     

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2021 #860

    "There are no lockdown restrictions in England, local or wherever..."

    youre correct...but perhaps there should have been a few weeks back when irate councils mis-interpreted govt 'advice' not to enter/leave the Delta variant areas unless necessary....and the 'advice' was subsequently erased...

    rather, this was exactly the time to put a lid on the rising case numbers in these areas, aggrevated by large number of non jabbers.

  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #861

    There are still "road map" out of Covid requests in places with high incidences of the virus asking people not to travel in and out of the areas concerned. If the requests are ignored the virus spreads to other places. It may not be a legal restriction but it seems to be a valid request.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2021 #862

    Hence the reason we cancelled our stay in Lancashire, instead head to our home county. However driving around yesterday we were surprised just how busy the Lakes were, even on a wet Wednesday outside of the main holiday period. 

    On the BBC news tonight it stated that the main infections in Cornwall occurred the week before the G7 meeting, the week of the Bank Holiday, and that it was those people in their late teens, early 20s that were by far those most affected.

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2021 #863

    Big push here with vaccinations today. Centre open8  am to 8pm.All welcomed.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #864

    They conveniently forgot the advance parties setting up the media centre, barricades, accommodation and so on for the G7. They were here from mid/late May.

    I've no doubt the crowds who came over the bank hol played a major part but I’ll not believe the official view regarding the G7 when, literally, many thousands came here from all over this country and the world.

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2021 #865

    The UK is now being pressurised by EUFA to allow fans to the games at Wembley with no quarantine. What planet are these people on when the Delta variant is out of control. Will Boris and money allow it to happen? Dont hold your breath.

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2021 #866

    It seems the football has to rule everything yell,now we have thousands of “fans” in London potentially spreading the virus surprised

    still , once were out of the competition people might stay at home !

     

  • Bakers2
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    edited June 2021 #867

    Can't go to the theatre even if spaced out - not that sort 😱

    But can go Ascot, football and other things doesnt make sense. But we are where we are........ . 🤐

     

  • ABM
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    edited June 2021 #868

    100% agreement there, B2 & Huskydog

    I saw a couple of 20-year olds on tv yesterday with the  'We are young and fit, so it won't hurt us.. . . . . .'  Perhaps, just perhaps it's time to bring back Matt Hancock's derided comment  ' Don't kill Your Granny with Covid  ' etched on a baseball bat

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2021 #869

    I see that today there were more first vaccinations than second ones, so, as Fisherman says the big push is on, trying to get those 18 and over done at least once as soon as possible.

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2021 #870

    G7, Bank holiday, who knows, what i can say is that i have just spent 3 weeks in Cornwall and have visited mainly beaches and some NT places such as Trelissick ranging from St Ives Bay to Newquay and even mid week most places were full to capacity and at weekend overflowing, and unfortunartely due to the make up of Cornwall e.g. lots of small villages with very narrow pavements etc, social distancing just goes out of the window.

    I also saw several hotels/restaurants in the Newquay area that were closed due to staff proving positive for Covid, so not just St Ives .

    We did try to avoid overly crowded areas, and always avoided eating/drinking inside, but we need to start putting our faith into the vaccine.

    wont be going to Cornwall during July/August, those that live there have my sympathy, think i would SORN my car for 3 months during the summer if i lived therelaughing, but i do love it, but did not fancy any of the club sites so went off piste, perfect.

     

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #871

    It’s simple really. July and August are the times we head eastwards if we go out. 

    It’s no good SORN-ing the car as public transport is to be avoided at all costs but, being local, we can pick our routes and times.👍🏻😀

    Out of interest, where did you stay, Rufs?