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  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,367
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    edited June 2021 #62

    I thought thats what I said.🤔

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2021 #63

    yes but it was Steve's choice and you should respect that no matter what you personally may think, he knew the prices beforehand and decided it was worth paying and was happy. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2021 #64

     ... They have lower maintenance costs and lower initial capital outlay and if my experience is anything to go by excellent return on the clubs investment.

    Last year when the Wels gov said that shower blocks should be closed, we were originally booked in at Chirk. When I question the club that they were not reducing the price per night, the reply I got back was that there was little difference in running cost between a full fat facilities site & a none facilities site ..... 🤔🤔 Quite how that works is beyond me

    And I too would prefer a none facilities site to a club site

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2021 #65

    yes .it was up to him. But I will pay for stuff I actually get

     

    is there a joke around & about along the same lines? Charges in a hotel of what was available ..... I'll let you find it - I might get moderated if I post it

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2021 #66

    I know .... hence my original comment

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2021 #67

    Your choice, his choice, Both are equally valid, but my point is that you should respect Steve's, which you didn't on page 5.

    As to the joke I have no idea?

  • peedee
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    edited June 2021 #68

    Smacks more of not knowing what is available out there than anything else.

    peedee

  • JollyKernow
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    edited June 2021 #69

    Who doesn't have google these days PD?  I don't think not knowing what's available is valid in my opinion. We have many non members stay on site that like what the club offers compared to others and are also happy to pay the supplement.

    JK

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #70

    I think I'm correct in saying that those who hire MH's via the club's link up with Swift get temp membership of the club so they wouldn't pay the supplement.🤷‍♂️

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  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #72

    Well we're talking about non fac sites here although they vary in price some are nicely situated and the site near Marazion is popular with people who just want a pleasant quiet base.

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  • peedee
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    edited June 2021 #75

    I wonder if once they have been around a while they will still think that. In my view Club sites with the supplement are well over priced. Perhaps those having just a 2 week holiday a year are more willing to pay higher prices?

    peedee

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2021 #76

    @BoleroBoy ...  if you include the (sorry but) awful Inclborough Fields which we stayed as short a time as possible) and

    Just wondered why you thought that 😕 We stayed there a few years back & liked the site especially as it wasn't all gravel

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2021 #77

    Just to be clear I would have no objection to the Club opening more no facility sites. However from a commercial point of view I think the Club would seriously consider the likely financial outcome between a no facility site and a full facility site. Imagine the Club purchase a plot of land large enough for 100 pitches. Even a no facility site would involve considerable investment. Electrics would be no different on either site nor would the provision of water and waste. Given what they have done at Hebden Bridge I imagine they would want to include the provision for say a couple of dozen service pitches. So the only real additional cost is the facility block £250,000 plus depending on size. Comparing the non facility site Hebden Bridge with the full facility site at Hawes the difference in pitch price per night is between £10 and £15 a night, so potentially £1000/1500 a night extra revenue. Clearly a facility block would probably have a minimum life of 25 years and even allowing for extra staffing costs the Club would stand to substantially add to its finances over the longer term. My argument is therefore the full facility site would provide the better return on investment  in the long run. If thinking about the future, will caravans and motorhomes be as well equipped as they are now given the uncertainty of electric propulsion. Could it be that in future LV's will be more basic and rely more on site provided facilities. The truth is we don't know!

    David

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #78

    Some where we are at Bearsted ,say it is expensive? ,until they are made aware of what it costs these days to run sites that use employed staff,,  where the majority of other than basic maintenance has to be out sourced to specialist  companies ,where their staff are all "qualified" to carry out such work,,

    On family run sites the risk is theirs 

  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #79

    No on family run sites the risks are just the same, that's business for you. smile

    I'm wondering if the club has tried to reply but after waiting ten minutes for their post to come through or getting a server error they gave up....wink

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #80

    I was talking about what work could/would be carried out in house compared to sites of both major clubs where "unqualified staff" would not be officially allowed to dosurprised

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #81

    They were not swift group vehicles at FM and they were non memberswink

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2021 #83

    We would choose Incleborough over Seacroft funnily enough. Just like the location much better. We stayed in a gorgeous cottage in West Runton last year, and I walked the footpath alongside Incleborough. It’s very handy for the rail links as well, more so than Seacroft. Did you get around any of the lovely gardens around there BB, Felbrigg or Blickling? I suspect they would be lovely at the moment.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2021 #84

    .. far too many pitches crammed in

    which sums up most club sites  🙄

    we were on the grassy exit side of the site 🙂

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2021 #86

    North Norfolk has some really lovely CLs and CS sites, some of the best in the country, so it’s rare we use Club Sites there. Only been to Incleborough once, a couple of nights one Autumn, only half of Site open very quite. Never been to Sandringham or Seacroft, but we have always enjoyed Fakenham Racecourse. Not sure if it’s still a Club Site nowadays. 

    I think part of our Cornish trip in September might be to seek out an alternative to Marazion if it comes to pass that Club have lost it. We prefer not to be too far down either Lands End or the Lizard, as it can be a tad more cut off at either, that’s why we loved this location. Choice of coasts, equidistant to either LE or Lizard, and easy to get elsewhere such as Falmouth, St Agnes Etc.... 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2021 #87

    We have not been back to Incleboro Fields since we discovered Seacroft where we go quite frequently. Reluctant to go to a site without hardstandings. Apparently the National Trust don't like gravel pitches and they seem to have some influence? Seacroft is not perfect but certainly it suits us better than Incleboro Fields. At least members have a choice in the same area so it should suit all?

    David

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2021 #88

    Aren't there hard standings as you go into the site? ie on the up hill side

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #89

    I’m sure there are. Each one on its own terrace.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2021 #90

    We’ve only visited once but I think the hardstanding pitches are the few service ones, near the entrance. We rather liked the site and it’s location. If we visit again though we will take bigger ramps, it all seems to be very sloping.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited June 2021 #91

    Is this a Marazion thread? Where are we now?