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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2021 #662

    Same here, best get the breaks in ASAP. 

  • Rufs
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    edited May 2021 #663

    "Nearly seven million people in Australia’s second-most populous state of Victoria will start a snap lockdown on Thursday night, as officials blame a sluggish vaccine rollout and hotel quarantine failures for a fresh virus outbreak that doubled overnight to 26 cases.

    Victoria state Acting Premier James Merlino told reporters in Melbourne that from 11:59pm (13:59 GMT), people will only be allowed to leave their homes for essential work, healthcare, grocery shopping or exercise."

    Not afraid of cracking the whip down under, the UK broke the 3k new infections total yesterday, undecided

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2021 #664

    We had a cottage booked in the Trough of Bowland area, not a million miles from Blackburn, for 2 weeks time. Carried over from last year, we'd really been looking forward to it because we love the area.

    But we had just about decided to cancel and lose our money when we got an email from the company saying it had been taken off the letting market with immediate effect and offering us a full refund!

    A real stroke of luck and we have been able to book an alternative in another area we love, near Ellesmere in Shropshire for the same week! 

  • Rufs
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    edited May 2021 #665

    Trough of Bowland was one of my favourite hiking/camping areas when i lived in Blackburn, still have a couple of relatives that live there, but wont be going to visit any time soonundecided

  • neveramsure
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    edited May 2021 #666

    Hi Moulesy, I think you would have been safe enough in the Trough Of Bowland, depending on where you intended visiting on days out and you stick to the rules.

    We live about 10 miles from Blackburn and are more worried that they lock down the whole of Lancashire like they did last time instead of just the high outbreak towns.frown

    We are away in Devon at the moment and have a holiday in Anglesey booked in July, also a couple of weeks in Norfolk this August. These were all booked before the rise in infection rates in some Lancashire towns.     

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2021 #667

    Here in Gwynedd we are down to 2.4 per 100,000 cases. With a huge influx expected over the week end, be aware of the need for continuing action to contain this virus. Wet today but looking sunny and warm from Sunday. Vans and M/H building up and I would guess if you dont have a reserved pitch you wont find one.

  • scoutman
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    edited May 2021 #668

    Indeed, Fisherman, with the latest ONS figures giving positive test results in the last week as Scotland 1 in 630, NI 1 in 820, England 1 in 1100, Wales 1 in 3800 ( figures rounded). Vaccinations now being given to 18-34 yr olds, and vaccination programme predicted to be completed one month early. Things are looking more positive here in Wales. No place for complacency so let's hope the bank holiday influx of visitors doesn't result in dramatic reversals of hard earned progress.

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2021 #669

    Our village had no Covid cases until Wednesday. Visitors from London came last Friday and proved positive. Appears they had symptoms before leaving. We are now having to take precautions as we dont know where they have been and are forced to stay here to isolate. Is it any wonder welcome is not as good.

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2021 #670

    Two others now infected. Please be very wary, it has not gone away. Testing going on locally.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2021 #671

    It truly hasn’t gone away. It’s creeping out from the problem areas again, particularly the NW area, London and around Bedford. ☹️

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2021 #672

    takethe dog. Yes the infection came from a London visitor, the new two are locals. As most have been vaccinated here the symptoms may not be so pronounced which makes  passing it on by default more likely. Worrying.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited June 2021 #673

    The Aussies have the best and worst situations. National government have been inept, not least in rolling out the vaccination programme. They’ve also been very unsympathetic to nationals stranded abroad which hasn’t won them many friends at home. The federal states and territories have tended to be very proactive, isolating themselves from the outset and very quick to lock down hard for short durations at the first sign of a local outbreak. It’s a formula that works, but needs a different system of government and judiciary than the UK, where you can’t crack the whip without permission from Downing Street.

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2021 #674

    We understand they left very early in the morning returning to London !!

  • ABM
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    edited June 2021 #675

    11/06/2021  BBC Evening News @ 10:10  is carrying alarming thoughts of the June 21 easing of restrictions  not going as far as thought frown

    Could it be that the G7 group might be confined to Cornwall for an extended period ?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #676

    It’s inevitable I’m afraid. With infections rising due to the Delta variant, the only sensible way is to delay further easing.

    As to your second para, I sincerely hope not. Our economy and way of life will not cope.

    Furthermore, many of the 5.5k imported Police are from areas of high infection rates and are too young to be vaccinated, as are our local Officers. The Police are mixing with the public as well as other Police Officers and are accommodated on a cruise ship which doesn’t bode well for containing infection. Already a member of a visiting Force has tested positive and a dozen are isolating.

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2021 #677

    Another Governmental SNAFU. We may not be released to go overseas but we can bring a ton load of overseas folk here, yup well thought out politicians🤷🏻‍♂️🙄

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  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2021 #679

    Very much a case of "Do as we say not as we do"

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #680

    A question many are asking along with wondering why so few masks are in evidence.

  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #681

    I'm still using the interactive map to see where the Covid outbreaks are most evident. When you zoom in there are some areas which have very high rates, I can't think that we can go ahead just yet with "release" dates. Map LINK  I see an area of Glasgow has over 1000 cases. I'm hoping there'll be a chance for more of the younger generation to get vaccinated before we "release." I was listening to Radio 4 covid science discussions this morning and the discussion raised the issue that children will probably need to be vaccinated as they are transmitting the latest Delta Covid variant more than previous variants.

     

  • SeasideBill
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    edited June 2021 #682

    Given recent developments absolutely no chance of relaxations on 21 June, at least 2 further weeks is best case scenario, more likely 4 as a starting point. Given the Delta strain is 60% more infectious a significant number of young people need to be vaccinated to get the situation under control. We dodged a bullet… imagine the situation we’d be in now if the Delta strain had hit us in February before the onset of mass vaccination?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2021 #683

    Agree with your two weeks and four would be safer in my view.

    I'm not an expert, so don't quote me, but from what I recall from one is that each variant for any virus 'builds' upon the the previous one in small steps and it can't really go from from say alpha to delta. 

    There are mutations or variants all the time, a whole lot more that the four we know about. It is in fact evolution in practice where a change  gives an advantage over the others and allows it to survive better.

    Some variants do not give the virus any advantage (or even give a dis-advantage) and that variant will 'disappear' or we don't even notice them, over ones that do. Some mutation/variant give the virus a significant advantage over the others, like it is more transmissible or has a greater load, and that variant will become the dominant one, just like the Kent variant became the dominant one a few months ago.

    Like I said not an expert, just going from recall. so just posting for discussion/information (ie don't shoot the messenger)

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2021 #684

    Evolution and Natural Selection in action! You can blame Darwin for that.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2021 #685

    Indeed but never did I think it would be working against us. I suppose another aspect of the arrogance of our species?

  • Wherenext
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    edited June 2021 #686

    Some of the population haven't evolved from Knuckle-Dragging mode yet still seem more than capable of surviving. That seems rather unnatural to me.😂

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2021 #687

    In the time scale of natural selection we've only been around for a very short while. Our process has hardly started yet.

  • Wherenext
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    edited June 2021 #688

    I'm under no illusion that HomoSapiens will be but a short few seconds in Earths clock.

    However, in my nano second of existence I would prefer it if the K-Ds could keep out of my way please.😉😉

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2021 #689

    Knuckle draggers tend to be quite hardy. They breed more as well. I think we might have got one moved into our street lately. Their dog definitely has the higher IQ, all the owner does is grunt.😂 It’s a pleasant grunt, but definitely a grunt. His education is on going at the moment, next door neighbour (very feisty) went round and read him the riot act about starting very smoky fires at 10am in the morning with everyone’s washing out drying. A word has been had about using petrol as a fire starter as well😱 Would hate for vaccine jabs to go to waste as he incinerates himself. Bit of a plonker methinks🤷‍♀️

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2021 #690

    Hope there's none on your site, or have you just been unfortunate in meeting some while out today?

     

  • Wherenext
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    edited June 2021 #691

    Well, Nellie, there is at least 1 on site with a possible 2nd and quite a few on Curbar Edge today but it was a beautiful warm day and a weekend to boot so kind of expected.