Motorhomes and the white peg rule

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  • Unknown
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  • BrianJosie
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    edited October 2018 #63

    Wow who would have thought that a little white peg could cause so much controversy laughing

    well I can honestly say that in the 22yrs that we have been members of the C& MC we have never had a problem,never been told to move or re-position and never come across a grumpy warden.I truly don’t know what all the fuss is about ,Surely in most cases it’s just common sense and thought for your neighbors on site.Well I’m just gonna finish washing the Motorhome in preparation for leaving On Wednesday for Abbey Wood for a week and then onto Moreton in Marsh.I will ring the sites ahead to check the white pegs are correctly positioned laughingcool

    seriously guys come on ,enjoy your Sunday 

    Brian & Jo

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #64

    No issue at all DD as long as the 6m clearances are observed. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #65

    I guess you can stop fretting about pegs and spacing on club sites now you’re no longer a member, DD. 👍🏻

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2018 #66

    "None of us that use Club sites want to be crammed in like sardines, its nice to have a bit of space and privacy. "

    bit of a sweeping generalisation, David.

    horses for courses, and different needs at different times.

    i use club sites, several times a year (along with other providers and site types) but I am more than happy to be parked of for the night, or two on 'awful looking van parks' like the excellent facility at Canterbury.

    it depends on many factors, closeness of stopping options, length of stop etc.

    for example, we have stayed in Carcassonne 3 times.

    the first time, we had four or five days there and stayed at the nearby campsite.

    both the other two times were one or two night stop overs and we stayed on the adjacent aire.

    they both served the purpose at the time.

    on our long trips South, where we won't be stopping long to smell the flowers, we use similar facilities.

    do I feel cramped, 2nd class, in danger....of course not.

    I feel appreciative to be able to use such a well sited facility, as I'm sure the van owners in the Canterbury picture did.

    its obvious, these facilities aren't for everyone, but for those who do make use of them they are an extremely convenient resource.

    and surely it matters not if some or all are overnighting, it's an overnight facility so the authority must have considered what guidelines to insist on for those that do sleep there?

    Knock it if you like but Good on Canterbury, I say. 

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #68

     it's an overnight facility so the authority must have considered what guidelines to insist on for those that do sleep there?

    I am sure that they did consider the consequences to the council if they sold 'pitches' for overnight camping. Which is why they instead sell overnight parking. The Canterbury City Council (Off-Street Parking Places) Order 2016 whilst detailing places where motor caravans might park overnight specifically prohibits sleeping in any vehicle overnight on any of their car parks.

    Link: https://www2.canterbury.gov.uk/media/1388243/OSPPO-2016-online.pdf

  • young thomas
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    Alan, i accept what you say, but, in practice, there are not repeated 'infringements' for those overnighting (sleeping) on this facility..

    my quick trawl of 'why not' is that (it appears) the council has decided simply not to enforce the TRO regarding sleeping...other sites were named.

    (the acceptance of) this sort of facility is (apparently) built from the 'bottom up' where firstly overnight parking is 'allowed', followed (perhaps) by the inclusion of further equipment like fresh water, grey waste disposal and chemical toilet facilities..

    councils don't like the word 'aire' used to describe this sort of facility as 

    "QUOTE] (from a (different) council that provides (similar) facilities): "That is why through the whole process I have avoided calling the facility we provide an ‘aire’ (though unfortunately the word has snuck in on publicity/press releases). I only ever mention it as ‘overnight motorhome parking’ – strictly speaking we do not allow sleeping, just letting motorhomes park overnight. That allows me to be able to defend the car park against a change of use though if other facilities were provided I would lose that defence."[/QUOTE] 

    I have found no reported 'transgressions' from the hundreds (thousands) of MH owners who have slept there....

    however, it matters not...if it proves to be where we want to be, I'm prepared to run the gauntlet of prosecution and will take the risk of anything else....

    its a tough world out therewink

  • KeithandMargaret
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    edited October 2018 #70

    Deleted User - (Maybe I should start a thread on 'good Aires'?)

    That would get a good bit of discussion I'll warrant.

    'The Good, the Bad and the Middling'  has a ring to it .....

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2018 #71

    But please, if you do, start it in the overseas section! smile

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2018 #72

    Why ?  Appledore, Bideford, Holsworthy, Exmouth, Westward Ho, Torrington. and Clovelly  are some of the  parking areas in Devon where     overnights for motorhomes are allowed. Are they not Aires? 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #73

    Not if LVs are pitched/parked at the recomended 6mtr spacing,it doe mitigated the the damage,I know of three on cc sites one was before the pitch spacing was amended to what is now in place

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2018 #74

    I don't know, et, are they "aires" or just car parks? But the point is that there surely aren't enough in the UK to warrant their own thread are there? I mean, wasn't that the reason for the "interesting petition" and the repeated demands for the club to provide them? undecided

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #75

    No they are not Aires. Most of the so called 'Aires' in the UK probably only have planning consent as car parks. 

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #78

    When is an Aire not an Aire?

    When it's a car park perhaps? 

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  • huskydog
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    edited October 2018 #81

    I haven't dipped my toes yet ,but I've taken my shoes and socks off in readiness cool

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #82

    Some Aires and Stellplatz are in car parks.

    Do they have the 3m fire break that European Campsites are required to provide as a minimum? I only ask out of curiosity. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2018 #83

    But General Chat is for off topic discussions, ie not for hobby related subjects.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2018 #84

    If not being able to open your window is 3m then I guess yes lol

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #85

    +1

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #86

    Lol

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  • moulesy
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    edited October 2018 #88

    Wouldn't those thinking of travelling overseas for the first time look in the ....er.....overseas section for advice though?  undecided

  • Phishing
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    edited October 2018 #89

    No, they don't have pegs, they don't have different colour pegs, they don't bang on endlessly about peg violation issues, measuring gaps, or rule breaking morons. 

    They have a stay here if you want to approach, it is up to the individual to decide if what they offer suits. They are chilled out and their rules, if they have any, comfortably fit on the back of a beermat.

    This why so many brits go there to experience the relaxed, non regimented, rule free environment. They love it, apparently it is what caravanning is about. 

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #91

    I asked a simple question and the reply did not require a smart bottomed answer.