Motorhomes and the white peg rule
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Rule 4
c. To avoid the spread of fire, there must be at least 6 metres spacing between facing walls of adjacent caravans, motorhomes or trailer tents and a minimum clear space of 3 metres between adjoining outfits in any direction.
The Club has laid out its policy, and it’s possibly the most strictly applied rule the Club polices most of the time. Hence the site plans, the little models, the “park to the peg” instructions from almost every check in.
Plus a fair few others I could quote from previous posts...
The Club, whilst i'm sure have everyones safety at heart, are strictly governed by its insurer in this matter, I have no doubt. Guidance from back in 2014 was rewritten and distributed as has been noted above and the Club took it on board. The rule IS one that the Club apply more strictly because they HAVE to, whether perceived as overly zealous or not, it doesn't matter because... if a fire should occur and spread, unfortunately causing injury or worse death, the Club have to be seen to be conforming to the fire safety advice, to distance itself from any possible claim arising from an accident. This will be written in the third party insurance the Club hold and will have to be strictly adhered to as much as is possible so that it can have a solid defence in any claim and so that an insurer can reasonably agree the rule has been adhered to and thus protect the Clubs interest in any such claim.
The same goes for other things regarding fire, such as fire fighting equipment, muster point signage, alarm bells etc. All have to be kept inline with requirements to keep insurers happy and liability at bay
So, to anyone querying the rule, not only is it for individuals safety, it's to protect the Clubs financial integrity in case of accident on one of its sites. If a vehicle isn't parked within the limits of the guidance and is noted by a warden, the warden could and should insist this is corrected.
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Don’t think you are looking to deceive AD, and I am guessing it is one of the none awning hardstandings, but the vans do appear to be closer together than I would have thought?
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The picture must have been taken some years ago as the way you have pitched would be different now , and it looks as if now it is blue peg pitch now since the latest pitch spaceing was implemented, I will note tomorrow, even White peg hedged pitches at Seacroft( thursday)are now blue
Ps some of the hedged pitches at Hillhead that were White pegs are noe Blue
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I never suggested a deception, David. I suggested it might be the camera angle because those vans look close together. However, you’ve chosen not to clarify.
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“This will be written in the third party insurance the Club hold…”
How do you know what the club’s insurance policy states, GN?
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not intentionally, but i am afraid there are a few of you on this forum who just do not get it, e.g. the more you moan and groan the less likely CAMHC representatives will take you seriously, i.e. they will either not bother to read the forum, which to a large extent is probably the case, or their attitude wil be something along the lines "ignore it, it is just those old coggers complaining again", I welcome valuable information put on this site and have used it extensively, also constructive posts but blathering on about 6mtrs or not 6 mtrs or whether 6 mtrs will or will not stop a fire spreading to the tune of some 21 pages is nonsensicle and will probably lead to the demise of the forumn
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Since the CMC likes pitches filled with boring grey gravel. They could always separate them with at least 6 meter wide grass fingers to ensure that whoever and whatever occupies the gravel pitch will never be closer to any adjacent unit than 6 meters,------Would give the camper the option to orientate their unit any way they choose, so long as everything remains on the gravel. ----- Would it lessen the number of pitches ? of course it would... But would it make the Campsite look and feel much more spacious and less like a supermarket car park --- Most Definitely.
A bit of modern forward thinking for the benefit of the customer is definitely needed no need to be stuck in the 1960's.K
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I dont to the letter, but I do own and run two businesses and both are insured for public liability, so I have a pretty good idea what insurers will and will not cover with respect to fire and health & safety.
But to be sure, you are entitled to view the Clubs policy if you wish, I often have to show my certificate to clients and they can check with my insurer if they wish, what cover I hold... it is a requirement that a company has available, the insurance cover it holds for anyone to view
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I agree, and with todays Litigation society i would think all organisations who are involved with the public would have to do everything conceivable to mitigate the "problem" and keep their premiums lower
Although i also understand the club are looking at doing their own "in house"insurance"
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Perhaps debating /conversing/ bantering isn’t for you rufs? That’s all it is when it gets into this stage. Some choose to take part, others choose only to read, some are just not interested. We are all different.
Most of us are wise enough to know that very little of what is said on here is to be taken seriously, and certainly unlikely to influence Club policy.
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Thanks, GN. I get it now, you mean plain and simple Public Liability. 👍🏻
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As TDA said, it doesn’t seem this is for you Rufs.
I think you take it too seriously and get wound up. That maybe why you were less than polite in your posts yesterday.
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I despaired of the need to be managed so precisely when things appeared to be tightened up a few years ago, but given the numbers on Club Sites, the size of outfits, the drive to fit in maximum pitch spaces, I have now accepted that it needs to be done.
Luckily it seldom becomes an issue for us as we rarely do a busy Club Site, much preferring other options, and lucky enough to be able to choose our times away. A Club Site on a Saturday can be absolutely bursting, but come Monday mornings, are a dream, lots of space. Some like busy, busy, others like solitude.
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I do not think, unless an extension to a site has been purchased, ie Seacroft and Bridlington sites ,that any site has "fitted in" more pitches since opening ,it is more the case of less pitches since the installation of hardstandings as where in the past there were 3 grass pitches there would now be 2 hardstands, and the recent add fire break spacing,has resulted in less awning pitches, the length and width of modern (compared to when we joined),has caused some sites to "look" more crowded
,It is the same where we store our van numerous "pitches" that in the past were capable of easely accomodating two vans back to back can now only take one and with the LVs also getting wider it is meaning that there is now a problem getting to open the door when stored ,that is all having to be addressed
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+1
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As it was ruffs reply to my Deleted User post about him being a 'little less than polite' I'll add a +1.
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He wasn’t alone, though. I haven’t got time to go back and see if the others have been Deleted User.
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this is going off piste somewhat now, but on the contrary, I do like debating/conversing/ not so much of the idle bantering, however, your last paragraph is exactly what i was getting at, so if this is the case why should the club spend money keeping this forum operational, and why are members complaining about poor levels of speed, software etc, if the forum is not being taken seriously, accept it for what it is, somewhere to pass the time engaging in idle bantering, and not have a heart attack because the club is being unresponsive. Perhaps I should move to FB or
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I think the simplest conclusion is that certain things have meant changes to number of pitches, limiting certain pitches to none awning, and flexibility of space usage. This has included larger outfits, more hardstandings and the requirement for agreed spacing between pitches. It’s a contrast between a Club Site of twenty years ago, and one today.
Aspects are different and require managing a different way. No right or wrong, just how it has evolved. Same as in my former line of employment, how a sports facility was managed twenty years ago is somewhat different to how a sports facility is managed today.
You accept what they are, or you go elsewhere and look for a different interpretation.
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I, from my observations, really haven't noticed very many wrongly pitched units on sites and I certainly haven't noticed more or less 'infringers' which can be attributed to owners of one type of unit or another be it a motorised or towed caravan. What I can suggest mind is that I cannot recall any motorhome owners ever being vehemently against the change in the club's name.
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It is fine "if" there are an else where to go, for most it seems, the clubs (both) being the major suppliers of pitches ,are doing what they need within the constraints of both finance and planning in this very small island ,in other places,where space is not the problem and costs are a quite less,then there are the opportunities for what some seem to think is needed
Even the Multi purpose organisations seem to be withdrawing from the touring aspect of their holiday camps in favour of what seems statics
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