Coed-Y-Llwyn Caravan Club Site - Electricity

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  • Unknown
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  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176
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    edited April 2018 #63

    We stayed at the Carnon Downs site with friends one chilly early spring. The supply there is 10 amps, we shared a bollard and our friends kept tripping it (they of the domestic electric kettle, full blast heating school of thinking.) We made sure we were not connected to them on future visits! yell

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited April 2018 #64

    and how many do you know who switch off the heating when they make a cuppa?

    We do, for one. We also switch it off when we use our microwave, which we use for nearly every evening meal.tongue-out

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited April 2018 #65

    No so, peedee. We have a largish 4 berth outfit and once the temperature up to a comfortable level we switch it down from 2 Kw to 1 Kw and the temps maintained.

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #67

    I doubt that there is a site that needs to

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  • Dickdastardly1
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    edited April 2018 #71

    The biggest issue for us oN site is that it seems everyone comes back on to the site at roughly the same time. This means there is a huge power draw and the fuses on the main switchboard cannot cope. Each EHU socket has a limit of 16 amps. The sites have 3 phases of electricity and each phase should be balanced out this is why you might see your neigbour with electricity when yours is out.  We lost a phase tonight on the main switchboard and had to get western power out, while they fixed the blown fuse they said they had 6 emergency callouts all from campsites..

    So infact it was the fault of Western Power and NOT the CAMC

    I hope this explains it..

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #72

    I must be a bit confused, Mark. I thought if excess draw on the power took out the fuse to one of the phases, then that would be due to CAMC's customers excessive demand on the power supply rather than Western Power's fault.

  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #73

    The external temperature is also a factor in what power is required to maintain an even temperature. Certainly a larger van will require more use of energy from whatever source than a smaller van and I standby my statement.

    peedee

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2018 #74

    I've got to disagree here, and it just shows that "blame culture" is everywhere. If anyone is at "fault" it's firstly the "I've paid for it so I'm having it" customers. Heating the world through your awning is plain excessive and selfish, no wonder a site will overload. So it's our club customers not the power company who are responsible for their usage.

    In my opinion metered electricity will go some way to get people to be more responsible. And I'll get to sell more gaswink

    JK

  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #75

    What is it you are disagreeing with JK, surely not my statement about larger vans requiring more energy to heat? That just seems common sense to me.

    I see Bridlington also had problems with supply.

    peedee

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2018 #76

    Sorry I was responding to Marks post above, forgot to hit the quote button!

    Off to dig some vans out of the swamp nowundecided

    JK

  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #77

    Thanks, JK surely your site isn't that bad that outfits are getting stuck.

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #78

    With Current temperatures around Chester 1kw would certainly keep any of the caravans that I have had over the last 12 years up to 23C day and 16 night. I would say that the size is typical of most at 5.5 internal length.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #79

    In my opinion metered electricity will go some way to get people to be more responsible. And I'll get to sell more gas

    With the cost of electric versus the cost of gas I doubt that somehow

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #81

    Put simply - I have on a couple of times had to run on gas. Power outage for a couple of days on two occasions but not due to site usage situations.

    However if a site cannot supply electricity at the bollard under normal circumstances I would expect a refund for EHU cost just as I would from my internet provider for loss of service that I have contracted for.

  • Dickdastardly1
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    edited April 2018 #82

    Tinwheeler, the fuse had corroded contact points which made it drop out...

  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #83

    You and others are clutching at straws ET. The writing should be on the wall. New sites I have visited recently have fitted meters e.g. Love2stay although they are not in use for those only staying a few days. The face of our hobby is changing in more ways than one.

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  • Oneputt
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    If anyone is at "fault" it's firstly the "I've paid for it so I'm having it" customers

    Yes, we've come across that, in fact, I think I have read some on other threads advocating just that very attitude on CT 

    On the majority of CL's we visit we try to be economical of the power we take. 

    Over there we are usually on metered electric. We obviously get an allowance with the daily Acsi rate but after that the meter kicks in, so for us heating by gas is very much the norm. When we are cooking the heat from the oven, grill and gas rings provide additional heat so heating gets turned down.

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #86

    Most in UK use regular bottled gas and in the UK that is far dearer per KW than electric. I doubt that pump gas is significantly cheaper than metered electric. probably three quarters of the unit cost per kilowatt compared to electric.  

     

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #87

    I was simply saying that metered electric would not entice somebofy to by bottled gas from site as an alternative to paying for electric usage. Do you think otherwise for most UK users PD? 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #88

    Thankyou for elaborating. Your first post suggested a different scenario. 

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  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #90

    I guess it would be down to each individual as to what they thought best. Some like CS would just pay for it no matter what they used others might use it more frugally and still others like Merv might prefer to use gas and not to pay anything at all if they had solar panels and inverters.

    peedee

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