Coed-Y-Llwyn Caravan Club Site - Electricity

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  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #212

    Not by me, David .....very poor forum etiquette! wink

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #213

     Sorry, Nav - you'll have tone point me in the right direction. Which thread? smile

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #214

     Burrs Electricity Supply - from memory.

  • brue
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    edited April 2018 #215

    Burrs electrics, see here Moulesy.

    It was also mentioned in quite a few site reviews.

  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #216

    TBH, I don't think the club are looking at metering, it's not part of their current ethos....but there's nothing wrong with giving them a nudge now and again....

    They have certainly looked at in the past and one hopes someone keeps an eye on technology advances not only in metering but in other areas of possible interest. What was dismissed years ago might now prove to be of benefit?

    Like I said up thread which Corners missed, new commercial sites, do seem to think metering is a good idea.

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #217

    TBH, I don't think the club are looking at metering, it's not part of their current ethos....but there's nothing wrong with giving them a nudge now and again....

    They have certainly looked at in the past and one hopes someone keeps an eye on technology advances not only in metering but in other areas of possible interest. What was dismissed years ago might now prove to be of benefit?

    Like I said up thread which Corners missed, new commercial sites, do seem to think metering is a good idea.

    peedee

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #218

    you named one, could you name a few more?

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #219

    If metering was introduced would the pitch fees be reduced? With the costs of installation and annual testing/calibration 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #220

    Hi everyone, we apologise for the problems people have been experiencing at Burrs Country Park. We are aware of the issue and our electrical contractors are working on this over the weekend.

    That was posted in November 2017, no problems since? And not due to 'excessive' use

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #221

    Thanks, brue, just read it. But again a "fairly full" site on a "cold" weekend on which the wardens said "everyone had their heating on".

    Yes, I agree, unacceptable and very frustrating for those concerned, but by no means a run of the mill occasion and, IMHO anyway, hardly a reason for the club to engage in the expensive process of installing meters on every pitch on every site.

    I don't claim to have a solution, but maybe a request at reception that, in such conditions, folk limit their heating to 1kW might help?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #222

    I remember on various club sites a poster by the club asking everyone to keep under a set limit on cold wet days, it was about 1.6 kw? Most people do I think.

    regarding the Burrs thread the electrical contractors were called out suggesting a fault somewhere?

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #223

    Too much load on one phase.

    (If you dont know what that means, it was bad planning not a direct fault)

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  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #225

    Posted on 03/04/2018 10:26 by BoleroBoy

    we've seen that sort of thing, DD....fairly simple devices..

    the other thing we've come across is that, where choice of power delivery pricing is offered, the site works out your bill, inclusive supply v metered cost, and then charges you the lesser of the two prices 


    "There is also another approach which could work to limit power usage on CC Ltd sites and might appeal to both sides.  Fit meters and provide 16 amp as they do now.  Allow up to [say] 2 Kwh's per day within the pitch price and charge for any excess used.  Light users have no need to worry and the greedy can have all they want and pay for. "

     

    Isn't this all getting a little complicated - and expensive - to sort out an occasional (admittedly unsatisfactory) situation.

    OK - here's the simple way, and it's something you've both suggested in the past. Have a non-EHU option and see just how popular that is. It's simple and no set up cost involved and after all it's exactly what the C&CC do (although I've used quiet a few C&CC sites over the years and the number of occasions on which I've seen vans/MHs not connected to the bollard can be counted on the fingers of, probably, less than two hands!) smile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #226

    I don't but why was an electrical contractor called out on a weekend if it was not a fault? to rectify the bad planning?

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2018 #227

    There does not appear to be much excuse for CAMC not to utilise 'green technology' at the very least on toilet blocks when sites are refurbished. Even if it it only partially reduced consumption, it would help the Club's carbon footprint.

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #228

    I would presume it was to gather data on what was happening.  When I spoke to him he was carrying a laptop, not a screwdriver and pliers.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #229

    Ok thanks for the replysmile

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #230

    Allow up to [say] 2 Kwh's per day within the pitch price and charge for any excess used. Light users have no need to worry and the greedy can have all they want and pay for.

    2 Kwh should be enough to keep the batteries charge over Christmas. For everything else their is gas undecided

     

     

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2018 #231

    Allow up to [say] 2 Kwh's per day within the pitch price and charge for any excess used.

    Not worth bothering about. That's 30 pence worth!

    Did you mean 20?

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #232

    So no takers for the "free to set up" non EHU option any more then? wink

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2018 #233

    sorry, M......yawn...sorta lost it with this thread.......wink

    while interested in that type of pitch, I think it's the club that needs to be a bit pro active and come up with a few (for CC) radical ideas....

    if there were a non EHU option at £5 less per night in winter, I'd certainly give it a try....and for a couple of quid in summer.

    i think it would need to be combined with a wholesale price makeover with differentials not only for EHU, but for HS/non and awning/non as well, as there is with SPs.

    but there won't be a great take up of non EHU as the majority of caravanners aren't geared up (certainly psychologically) to not hook up..it's what you do when you park on site,  isn't it?

    a good idea of TDAs (I think) to introduce a few economy HS nr the entrance for the increasing number of quick turnaround users,leaving more full fat pitches for those that prefer them....

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #234

    BB, my point was that the non EHU option, compared to the rather more complicated arrangements suggested could be set up quickly and at no cost - just tell the wardens when you arrive and get a price cut. To me it's a least bad and least complicated option and not something I'd be interested in.

    BTW, I'm guessing your singling out of "caravanners" in your penultimate paragraph was just an unfortunate oversight? wink

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #235

    but there won't be a great take up of non EHU as the majority of caravanners aren't geared up (certainly psychologically) to not hook up

    Nothing to do with psychology - The majority of site users are not equipped for no EHU

     

    a good idea of TDAs (I think) to introduce a few economy HS nr the entrance for the increasing number of quick turnaround users,leaving more full fat pitches for those that prefer them....

    Can't say that I have noticed many 'quick turnaround users'. I certainly don't see how providing such economy pitches on sites that don't have them produces more 'full fat pitches'. How does that work? 

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2018 #236

    easy, if I were on one in a new area, you (or someone else) could have my 'full fat' pitch which I have not used....

    and of course they're not 'physically' equipped, take that as read.....the 'psychological' comment was an 'e-quip'....get it?.....undecided 

    M, of course it wasn't an oversight....you, Corners, JVB and Easy are all caravanners, aren't you?wink

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #238

    Not sure where you find this space near the entrance which could not be used for 'full fat' or as car parking. Have you identified unwanted space, not suited to better things, that could be used to suit your requirements? 

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2018 #239

    No sales there then David

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #240

    But I thought you were no longer a quick turn around as far as CAMC sites are concerned David. Isn't that what you'very been telling us recently? undecided

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2018 #241

    Fair enough, BB. Just out of interest, which of all the sites you told us you booked recently are you personally going to decline EHU on? (Sites, not THS or rallies). undecided