Coed-Y-Llwyn Caravan Club Site - Electricity
Staying at Coed-Y-Llwyn Caravan Club Site at the moment for 2nd of two nights.
Power tripped for whole site at 9pm 1st night.
So far this evening it has tripped the whole site 4 times.
Wardens state it’s because everyone has heaters on. Why isn’t there a limit per bollard that ensures people overloading the site trip their bollard not the main supply?
I have had to resort in running my heating off 12v and gas now all night as every power cut results me taking action at my control panel.
Is the club going to do anything to improve the supply to this site?
Is there any compensation available for disrupted stays and running on gas all night?
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We are staying at Hurn Lane site, we arrived on 29th and all was fine, however from the 30th we have had outages too many to count. On speaking with the wardens they have stated exactly the same reason and have posted signs in the toilet blocks asking for members to not use unnecessary electrical equipment. At around 7:30 tonight it tripped yet again and we walked around the site and could see people sitting in awnings with heaters on, why are these people so inconsiderate? I agree with you, all bollards should trip for those who are overloading and should stay on for those who are using it normally, (this is what used to happen). It is now 21:30 and looking across the site we can see awnings lit up and obviously using electric heaters. This practice should be outlawed, it's no wonder that costs per night are rising ridiculously. We have been running all night on 12v as we are fed up of the TV going on and off. Yesterday our alde heating (set at the lowest kw) was totally upset with it going on and off every few minutes and we had to reset the whole system. The worst thing with this site is that it is not even operating at full capacity as there are only two vans who are not on hard standing, so 55 pitches not occupied. CMC we need answers and action!
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We are asked to use the power supply sensibly and yet people are allowed to get away with heating fresh air in an empty awning. Why come in and sit in an awning when you can sit nice and snug indoors.
I see no need for these outdoor heaters and I also agree they should not be allowed unless under very essential circumstances.
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sorry a few points:
At around 7:30 tonight it tripped yet again and we walked around the site and could see people sitting in awnings with heaters on
if you can see these awning with heaters in them then the electricity hasn't tripped?
... in an empty awning. Why come in and sit in an awning when you can sit nice and snug indoors.
If people are sitting in the awnings then they are not empty?
also how do you know it's the heaters in the awnings that are causing the problem? Is 1 kw in the awning any different to 1 kw in the outfit? I could not have an awning and still trip the electric.
But apart from the inconsistencies noted - sorry but I don't agree about banning awning heaters, certainly everyone should keep to under 3 or even 2 kw but after that, well just keep caravaning
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I’ve been told the problem of the whole site tripping out could be overcome by reducing each EHU to 5amps.
Anyone up for that?
As for outlawing awning heaters, that’s laughable. Other rules such as speeding can’t be enforced so how does anyone think awning heating could be policed? What difference does it make if someone is using electricity in their awning or inside the van? Who knows what appliances people use inside their vans but no one ever comments on that as it's not visible.
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Cornersteady, just a point
My post, your reply
"... in an empty awning. Why come in and sit in an awning when you can sit nice and snug indoors."
You've broke into two different sentences to try and prove a point
My first sentence mentions an empty awning. The second one doesn't. This is not an inconcisitency it is the way you have read the post.
I never mentioned the heaters were responsible I was making a point that their use was unnecessary.
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...and someone actually had to use some gas....whatever next? definitely, a rebate due
the thing is, the site supply isn't infinite, although some seem to think it is (or should be...), so with 80+ vans wanting upto 16a of electric (well they have paid for it and why should anyone use their precious gas) that's a huge potentially simultaneous demand....
obviously, the infrastructure (or parts of it) can't cope with this level of requirement.....
I'd ask for my money back and raise a question in the House....
Peedee's response is spot on, take a fiver off the site fee and then get folk to pay for the leccy they use, demand will fall as minds (and thoughts of wallets) are focussed....
with a 12v Tv and Satellite system and a gas hob, apart from a flashing light (and a beep) on the fridge freezer, I doubt if I would notice a power cut...it certainly wouldn't 'impact' us to any degree.
just like being on a THS site or Aire or ....
..if I felt the temperature drop in the van, I'd use gas for heating and the fridge ....is it really so difficult that it warrants a discussion....
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In the winter we often us gas for the heating, once van is warm we switch over to electric on a sort of tick over level. We never leave the heating on when we are out or when in bed.
I don't know but I suspect the folk who are heating their awning are more than likely warming the van too
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take a fiver off the site fee and then get folk to pay for the leccy they use, demand will fall as minds (and thoughts of wallets) are focussed
You only have to go to a site (mainly on the Continent) which has metered electricity to see the efforts some make to avoid using it! In the caravanning press a few years ago it was stated sites in the UK which had fitted metering systems had seen a reduction in use by as much as 50 percent. I have always said metering is the way forward and with todays technology it need not be a burdon on the user or the supplier.
peedee
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it's one of the options at a site we use in Spain, contrary to what some have thought, it doesn't impact the billing or leaving process at all...although some might think paying on departure is a 'departure'....
its a bit like the staggered arrivals process, everyone leaves at a different time so it's easy for José (or Bert) to read the meter and this is fed directly into the billing system...a swipe of the card, a cheery 'Adios' and away we go.....
of course, gas is cheaper 'there' and a real alternative for fridge and heating....while folk are tied to expensive Calor bottles I can see why they wince when they have to actually use some
still, I'm sure the club will fix it by putting another notice in the loo....
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We have been on a good many sites with only a 10 amp supply and less, and simply use a bit more gas for heating.
Our house has around 15 x 13 amp sockets, but if I plugged a 3 Kw fan heater into every single one of them they would use around twice what my main fuse board can handle so it would trip.
A caravan site is no different really, it CAN supply 16 amp to all of the bollards, but NOT always at the same time. When the weather is cold, and heating is required by everyone at the same time, rationing maybe required so as to stay within the sites overall electrical capacity. If everyone wants to be able to draw the full 16 amp, this will need the capacity of the site to be upgraded, with an increase in price to match just to cover a few colder periods each year.
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We have been on a good many sites with only a 10 amp supply and less, and simply use a bit more gas for heating.
Have been on 10 amp site in Scotland with snow falling at start of April but no need for additional gas usage.
Although the system may not support all outfits drawing their full allowance at the same time most are likely to run heating on 2kw and using a thermostat. So not all will be drawing that 2kw at the same time
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Yes indeed ET, but if the site keeps tripping out, clearly someone is using it for something.....
We were on a site last September which was full, and the demand was so high that the voltage dropped to a measured 210v from the usual 230.. I knew something was amiss as my fridge had automatically switched to gas, as it does below, 220v... Later, when things warmed up , all was well again.
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but its that 3kw domestic kettle that adds to the fun.....and the hair dryer, and the hotplate and the microwave and....
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How many do you know that run heating on 2 kw and then use a 3kw electric kettle?
I wonder how many use a microwave regularly and for how long? I reckon ours i used for, at most, 5 mins a year.
I don't use a hairdryer but doubt that it would be required to run for long .... especially with my hair being thinner
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I wonder how many use a microwave regularly and for how long? I reckon ours i used for, at most, 5 mins a year.
We used ours in the caravan last night for 10mins and probably use it 3 times a week.
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sorry usually one sentence follows another in a paragraph.
but they are necessary - the keep me warm in the awning, why should I be cold?
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how would have meters stop the electricity tripping? Meters or not I'll use whatever electricity I need to enjoy my holiday within the 16A?
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