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  • cariadon
    cariadon Forum Participant Posts: 861
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    edited February 2018 #212

    So true Brue, to take it off topic it's like the ones who complain about pitching to the peg, or the speeders, It's a rule for somebody else not them, But the ones to adhere to the rules get tarred with the same brush.

  • Milothedog
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    edited February 2018 #213

    Can I just say, as a responsible owner of 2 dog's.  Sometimes what an onlooker see's can be misinterpreted.  My point is, my younger dog will take any opportunity to wander off and explore, say hello to other people. As much as we constantly ensure we know where they are the youngest one has been known to  have squeezed through that 6" gap at the bottom of the awning door zip. As soon as we aware of this, on the rare occasion it happens, we act immediately and apologize  to anyone concerned. 

    Sorry but this is what dog's generally do. And nobody is perfect?  

    This does not make me an irresponsible dog owner, and for the OP to title the thread as he did was only done to antagonize people in my view.

  • moulesy
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    edited February 2018 #214

    "The original post and most of the others surely only applies to the issesponsible owners however many there might be.

    However if you compare this to recent posts that push responsibility back onto the witness followed with derision, this is as unacceptable as the original issue.".

     

     

    I agree with your last sentence, of course, BM.

    But my point was that the vast majority of "responsible" dog owners (and I think everyone does agree that the vast majority are "responsible") are made to feel guilty by the tone of several posts in threads such a this.

    This one is, I think a particularly blatant example of doing just that - look at this statement - "The  number of dog owners exercising their dogs off leads and using the grass pitches as sh.....ing ground was disgusting. Not the odd one but generally used" and "...ban all dogs ..." followed by the statement some 200 posts later on that there were 2 "offenders" on a busy weekend.

    Can you see why that antagonises us "responsible" dog owners and leaves us feeling unjustifiably guilty? frown

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited February 2018 #215

    On site's that make charge for dogs, there is a noticeable reduction in dog owners, and so long as the club use the fact that they do not charge to increase membership,we see more members with dogs,I also feel most dumping goes on after "lights out" when the the wardens are enjoying a glass of wine.

     

  • young thomas
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    edited February 2018 #216

    have to agree with David here, if someone is happy to dish out a torrent of abuse over a 'quiet word', I'm sure it won't be 'let go' after someone telling tales to a warden....expect more probably....

    folk have to make a judgement call which is what WTG rightly did...

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #217

    The C&CC have the same  "percievd?" problem

  • Milothedog
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    edited February 2018 #218

    I have still yet to witness a club run site littered with dog mess. I have seen it in the designated walking area's and I agree it should be picked up and put in the bins provided. But I have never seen any on a pitch or in public area's.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2018 #220

    +1, as often said what happens actually on a club site and what is reported to happen on CT are just poles apart. 

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  • Bluemalaga
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    edited February 2018 #222

    moulesy

    I have to agree this is rather antagonistic and appears to be something of an exageration. 

    The " ban all dogs " is not a common wish ( although several defenders try to infer that it is) and as has been stated, with so many members being owners, it is highly unlikely to become club policy, nor  should it.

    I am fairly certain that most owners do not condone any of the anti-social behaviours often stated on here, however that is not always clear.

     

     

     

     

  • moulesy
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    edited February 2018 #223

    Agreed! smile

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #224

    This does not make me an irresponsible dog owner

    Nor does it show you to be responsible Milo wink

     

    I was on site a couple of years ago, might have been at Brid. The same young pup escaped from a pitch several times and twice jumped up on my previously white trousers. I was only carrying two pairs on the caravan! No, I was not incensed. Amused the first time. Less amused the second time despite my laughing and the pup was delightful. Doubt it was your young escapee though smile

  • Kennine
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    edited February 2018 #225

    Can you see why that antagonises us "responsible" dog owners and leaves us feeling unjustifiably guilty? 

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    As a responsible dog owner, I deplore those anti social owners who allow their dogs to be a nuisance to others on campsites..  

    However as a level headed, sensible person I am definitely NOT Antagonised when anybody complains about cases of antisocial behaviour by dog owners they have seen. They are quite within their rights to express their opinion. 

     I am, like most sensible people, disgusted that certain owners allow their pets to behave in that way. It ain't the dog's fault.   Does it bother me - Yes it does. 

    Why a few dog owning people are "Antagonised" by reading the truth about anti social dog owners seems to me to be rather OTT . Could it be that they themselves have a guilty conscience about what they allow their dog to do. 

    Let us, the responsible dog owners, enjoy our hobby with our dogs and let the CMC via their wardens, deal with antisocial owners.

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2018 #226

     previously white trousers. I was only carrying two pairs on the caravan!

    I've only ever owed 2 pairs of white trousers ..... they were both part of my 'Trop rig'. I've never since owned, or wanted to own, another pair of white trousers. 😉

  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2018 #227

    Well actually WTG I have no idea what your post actually stated as I was not replying to it.

    For the record I was actually replying to Milothedog's post which was:

    I have still yet to witness a club run site littered with dog mess. I have seen it in the designated walking area's and I agree it should be picked up and put in the bins provided. But I have never seen any on a pitch or in public area's

    to which I replied:

    +1, as often said what happens actually on a club site and what is reported to happen on CT are just poles apart.

    And I still hold to that view.

     

     

     

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #228

    I did not give an opinion Milo. I merely indicated that letting your pup escape does not make you any more responsible than me when I let my Alsatian and Lab out of the back door at home before checking that the front gates were locked as normal. My eldest had left the gates wide open and the dogs had been gone 10 minutes before I realised. I was a responsible owner too laughing

    It was my fault as I was in charge of the dogs .............. it happens though

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  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #230

    Well I do hope to get two days use out of a pair MM. On both those occasions having put a pair on I never got beyond packing some stuff in the car boot for a day out wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2018 #231

    that's Ok and thanks for posting back, I am not for one moment implying that what you wrote about did not happen to you, far from it, I was merely agreeing with Milo's post. 

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  • moulesy
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    edited February 2018 #233

    A bit of selective quoting there, K! (How surprising! laughing)

    As BM clearly recognised, I was referring to the exaggeration in the OP, not to justified complaints about the small number of incidents actually witnessed on club sites. So no "guilty conscience" here, since our dogs are never off lead on site and are usually exhausted by the time we return to site after a full day's walking in the country. How about yours? wink

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited February 2018 #234

    A responsible Dog owner would’ve checked gates before letting the Dogs out. A responsible Dog owner stays with their Dogs for safety & good husbandry practice. A responsible Dog owner knows where their Dogs are all the time, close quarter training. These things all ensure their Dogs bother no one. Our Dogs-our responsibility👍🏻

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #235

    A responsible Dog owner would’ve checked gates before letting the Dogs out. 

    Never said that I was perfect smile just responsible and not easily offended R2B . 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited February 2018 #236

    Good👍🏻, as I don’t give offence😊

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #237

    And I try not to take it even if offered. smile

     

     

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2018 #238

    I mustn't be responsible as Molly isn't always tethered while she's sat outside with us. innocent

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #239

    Neither was our Labrador but he was if we left him unattended for any reason (except in the garden at home smile )

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2018 #240

    We just don't leave Molly unattended innocent

    We have had people comment how well behaved she is.

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #241

    I never thought that you would MM. We never left ours unattended on site other than maybe if we went for showers.