Why do we have a Club Chaplain?

JayEss
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edited April 2016 in Club Membership #1

I've spotted the role of Club Chaplain amongst the list of Officers and Committee Members. 

Why does a caravanning club need a chaplain? How much does it cost to have a chaplain? Is it just another jobs for the boys/girls scenario?

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  • Metheven
    Metheven Club Member Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭
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    edited April 2016 #2

    Well spotted Jay Laughing perhaps a prayer or two helps keep the steam driven forum going that bit better.

    I'd love to know what role he plays in the Club.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited April 2016 #3

    It's a she, Dave, they all are these days. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #4

    interesting question, hope the club comes on here and answers.  We have a school chaplain but it is a non paid position and caters for all religious needs from whatever regilion. Faith schools have a paid position. I really can't see a need in the club though? 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #5

    It's a she, Dave, they all are these days. 

    the Vicar of Gristead? no. no. no, no, yes

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #6

    The C&CC doesn't appear to have a chaplain. 

     

  • vivien
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    edited April 2016 #7

    Perhaps we should all be church going members of the CC? Another daft idea if tou ask me!  Why would I need a Chaplain?

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2016 #8

    they have the chaplin because the IT dept are constantly saying "god help us"Frown

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #9

    Well I've reported my post in the hope that someone can explain. 

    Call me odd if you like but I prefer my leisure organisations secular 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #10

    What role does this lady play? I seriously question the need for a chaplain in CC. 

    It's ironic when one dares not mention religion on the forum.

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2016 #11

    I'm ambivalent but find it strange that the club retain a chaplain but any mention of religion on CT will invoke the T&C's.  Wonder if the Chaplain is aware of this moroturium?

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2016 #12

     Apparently she was judging the cakes / handicrafts at the start of the BBC 2 prog the other night. See  C of E web site
    here.

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2016 #13

    Probably why she doesn't post on here Innocent

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #14

    Judging cakes eh?

    I've not come up with much more. A service at a National I think so that's probably a regular item. 

    I'd like to be ambivalent but I'm afraid I'm not  

  • eurortraveller
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    edited April 2016 #15

    Oh dear. Gets worse dunnit. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #16

    No disrespect intended to the lady but is that a necessary function within CC? Surely anyone could judge cakes.

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #17

    Oh dear. Gets worse dunnit. 

    For me, yes it does. 

    This may well be the final straw Laughing

  • eurortraveller
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    edited April 2016 #18

    Was she judging hot cross buns perhaps - needs a vicar for them ? 

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #19

    No disrespect intended to the lady but is that a necessary function within CC? Surely anyone could judge cakes.

    Is cake judging a necessary function?

    I think it's time the CC separated the business side from the club side of things like the RAC did. Then those of us who just want the services could become associate members 

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2016 #20

    notwithstanding the judging of cakes on important programs like COTY, would her 'serious duties' be pertinent to CC staff, its customers, both or (as it might seem) neither?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #21

    It depends if this is an honourary position, perhaps when the club was founded in 1907 (?) it was the done thing to have one and it might be a condition of the founding of the club and still carried on to this day. I hope it's honourary and unpaid as I haven't
    really noticed any input and didn't even know we had one till today.

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #22

    It may well be a throwback to the old days but the C&CC doesn't bother and the CC replaced theirs/ours fairly recently. 

    Bit archaic really. Time to modernise CC 

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2016 #23

    I'm sure she is nice but can't see a need for her really, and although I'm not that way inclined, if I was I'd go straight to the top.

  • vivien
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    edited April 2016 #24

    I have just realised when a Chaplain may be needed! Shortly after the lady was nearly ran down on the fantastically serious program of last Wednesday eve

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #25

    You could be right Vivien but if we need a chaplain we ought to get all bases covered and I look forward to hearing about the Club Rabbi, Imam and Warlock in due course. 

    Or we could remember it's 2016 and this is a caravanning organisation perhaps?

    either works for me 

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #26

    I'm bumping this because I'm not asking a frivolous question or trying to cause trouble. 

    I genuinely want to know why a club devoted to caravanning and motorhoming and all the associated services has a chaplain?

    i could email but I have no expectation of a reply and I think a few others would like to know as well  

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2016 #27

    I agree Jay. This isn't about a particular Religion or individual but about why cater for one section's beliefs but ignore all other faiths. Easiest way is to leave it to the individuals by having none or cover all. Inclusivity is the watchword. You can't
    be fairer than the secular approach.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #28

    I agree that I can't see the point, or the need, and await the club's responce, but to be fair although chaplain has Christian roots, a chaplain in an organisation/non faith school is to cater for all beliefs and religions.

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #29

    Oh I can accept that a chaplain caters for all beliefs and religions (except my beliefs), I just want to know why we have one. 

    My calendar says 2016 and the things I'm reading in CT at the moment don't really tie in with a club that's interested in our spiritual or indeed other welfare. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2016 #30

    As this good lady is also a member of the Club Council, I hope she has some caravanning experience and isn't there simply because of her role as chaplain which, as far as I'm concerned, has no relevance whatsoever to our leisure activity.

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2016 #31

    So, if a member on a club site needs the services of this chaplin , how is she "deployed" from HO?????