2021 Travel Plans

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited September 2020 #32

    I could be wrong but I don't think there is any ban on travel, it's just that when you return you will have to quarantine  as TG says. The FCO has advised against travel but that is not a ban. Like others I would use the Tunnel as there is minimal contact required. As you say you are vulnerable so you have the weigh up the risks. With regards the boat are you not paying the moorings to look after it for you? 

    David

  • eurortraveller
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    edited September 2020 #33

    You are right - there's no ban. Two young friends have just gone over from Plymouth for a week's carp fishing in France. I am sitting by the woodburner and they are in a small tent by a lake ! 

    They took the  ferry to Roscoff which is still sailing three times a week all through October - they had a cabin and said there were just a handful of other passengers on board - on a ship which can normally carry 2400. That ferry company is certainly losing a lot of money.

     

  • Rufs
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    edited September 2020 #34

    2 sets of wardens on the site i am currently on, always overwinter in Spain, one set leaves next Tuesday for Javier, will stay until early March 2021, the other set will leave late October for Mazarron and stay until early March. Have to say they are not in the at risk category and both sets have secured medical insurance, their only concern if as per last year, some sites were forced to close and campers sent packing, but it would appear lots of concessions were made for those who were over wintering for long periods.

    for us we are planning a trip to southern Spain via France commencing April 2021 returning Jun 21, hopefully, right now the situation in Spain is too volatile, and the government do not hesitate to roll out the troops to help enforce lock downs etc, so not for us this year.

    As a precaution we have booked present site for 1 month Sept 2021, as staycations are bound to be on the increase with sites getting booked up very quickly undecided

     

  • MDD10
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    edited September 2020 #35

    I note that the Club have now published details of holidays next year promising if FCO advice changes to advise again not to travel, then deposits or payments will be refunded.  This isn’t really the crux of the problem.  What is a problem is the inability to be insured in case of local lockdowns and getting home as prices immediately soar.  Secondly is the risk of quarantines being imposed at short notice which for most working people, the risk is too great.

    The offer to refund if you haven’t travelled and a quarantine is imposed might resolve some of these issues but I guess is not financially practicable 

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  • Metheven
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    edited October 2020 #37

    Some info for anyone thinking of using the Hull to Zeebrugge route next year, it has been announced it will not return and will be axed. Hull to Rotterdam will still be sailing.

    Hull Zeebrugge 

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  • allanandjean
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    edited October 2020 #39

    Looking at the link that Metheven posted does make for depressing reading and whilst, as David says, not entirely surprising does show that any thoughts that we will just resume travel in 2021, as if we have just had a year off, may be very misplaced.

    Sometimes stats can be overdone but one that jumped out at me yesterday was that Exeter Airport saw 97000 passengers in August 2019 and just 9 in August 2020.

    BF reports of 55-65000 cancellations is awful but if they do do not, or cannot re-book, thats going to make the likelihood of a return to pre covid levels of crossings and frequencies very unlikely. 

    And now its started raining!

  • Wherenext
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    edited October 2020 #40

    Not making plans but always have "hope".

    Reading some articles it appears that any vaccine may not appear for most until second half of 2021. Any trip abroad taken by us would normally be in Spring but not set in stone and we have ventured abroad in September. I'll wait and see having seen last 3 planned trips overseas cancelled for various reasons.

  • Tigi
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    edited October 2020 #41

    BF have been guaranteed support by the French Goverment for the next twelve months. I have noticed the price to Caen for next year has taken quite a hike over last year, from my experience booking too early can be as uneconomic as booking last minute, rather depends if you able to be flexible or not.

  • DavidOldmoley
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    edited October 2020 #42

    Hoping to get to Europe next year, after this year cancelled. We also have a credit from a cancelled river cruise we wish to use!

  • Lunny moon
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    edited December 2020 #43

    Did you have to pay any tolls in Slovenia , as we are thinking of going to Croatia? Hope to hear from you soon 

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  • Rufs
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    edited December 2020 #46

    interesting article in the media this morning

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    The UK's Brexit transition period with the EU ends on December 31.

    The EU is only allowing essential travel from non-EU countries with low infection rates during the pandemic.

    But only travellers from eight of these countries are currently allowed into the EU, The Financial Times reports

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    "EU officials told the FT there are no plans to add the UK to this list of safe countries"

  • peedee
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    edited December 2020 #47

    Yes according to other reports it looks like from 1st January the UK will be placed on the not allowed in list. This, like many other things is, in my view, speculation. Nevertheless I think it is daft to make any kind of firm bookings until all becomes clear and cast in tablets of stone. I am not planning anything and will take it as it comes.

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  • Rufs
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    edited December 2020 #48

    Yup not planning anything until Aril 21, however, i dont think it is speculation, it will happen automatically unless the EU decide to put us on the list of countries than can travel within the EU, but, are the big  overseas holiday destinations for Brits going to sit back and let this happen, Benidorm ???unlikelyundecided

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2020 #49

    I have recently received an email from my motor insurer advising me I may need a green card to drive abroad issued by them due to a(potential) lack of trade deal being sorted🤷🏻‍♂️

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  • SeasideBill
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    edited December 2020 #51

    In that scenario, I wonder what would happen to places like Gibraltar? Currently people are free to wander between Gib & Spain, many Spaniards rely on that arrangement for their livelihood. It’s currently an entry point for Brits entering Spain, but onward travel is confined to Andalusia.

  • Rufs
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    edited December 2020 #52

    anybody planning to take fido abroad next year, i suggest contact your vet now, we took the necessary precautions in 2019 as a safeguard. The main focus is on Rabies antibodies, and this involves blood tests to check for antibodies etc, it took us nearly 4 months to complete the procedure as Fido failed the first test, and it is quite expensive, and it needs to be followed up by a booster jab i think within 2 years, more expense.undecided

  • iansoady
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    edited December 2020 #53

     It's OK though as we have regained our sovereignty.......cry

  • peedee
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    edited December 2020 #54

    What goes on at the border between Spain and Gig is not really a concern for most of us.

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  • SeasideBill
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    edited December 2020 #55

    Just ignore my post then without being so dismissive. 

  • peedee
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    edited December 2020 #56

    Latest from the EU

    "Separately, the European Commission has confirmed reports that a ban on travel to the EU because of Covid-19 levels, applied to non-EU countries, will be extended to UK visitors from 1 January."

    peedee

  • LLM
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    edited December 2020 #57

    That's fine as long as we extend the same curtesy.  I do however wonder how the Spanish for example will fill the gap in their holiday market coffers?

  • peedee
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    edited December 2020 #58

    There is always the Dutch, the Germans, the Scandinavians and the French. They are not totally reliant on Brits.

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  • LLM
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    edited December 2020 #59

    That is true but the figures I have seen suggest that we make up about 50%.  That's a big hole to fill even if there is just a 10% reduction and the same applies to the reduction is Brits visiting other EU countries.  

  • peedee
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    edited December 2020 #60

    LLM I was just going by my own gut feeling and my experiences of winter travel to and around Spain.

    A quick google for the stats gave me this:

    The leading source markets of Spanish beach tourism are the UK (around 24% of the total arrivals in Spain in recent years), Germany and France (around 15-16% each), followed by Scandinavia and Italy (around 7% each) and the Netherlands (around 5%).

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #61

    I stumbled across this earlier on the BBC News App. It bears out the info in earlier posts and it's not looking great, I have to say, but things could well change between now and next spring/summer👍🏻