Not much chance of France this summer
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Some Italian campsites on the north Adriatic coast are opening this Friday (5/6/20).
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Chin up!!!! 25 degs in Lee-on-the-Solent today my daughters swimming pool 29 degs who needs European holidays ? but next weeks weather forecast looks a little bit more daunting
what i am looking forward to is a lazy hot summer in the UK and then off to Spain with the caravan in September, can't whack it, 9 months of sunshine 
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We came through Carjarc in the Lot on Sunday and there is a new Aire not far from the local campsite and it was jammed full only got 7/8 parking spots and there was 14 Motorhomes on it even one area with four parked in a square formation and all had the windout canopies out looked very cramped for our liking in the current situation, we also drove pass another campsite in Larnagol next to the Lot river and the grass has been mowed but no water in the pools yet also it is up for sale around 600.000 euros if anybody is interested it has been up for sale for about 5 years now we think a little overpriced also we would not go there again unless it has a change of owners.
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Small consolation, but Cath has just added up the cost of last year's 6 week expedition to France: one week to get to Cote d'azur; 2x2 weeks stay at two sites; one week to get back.
Black horse £20
Ferry inc Club lounge £177
Dartford Xing £5
Fuel £397
Campsite fees £840
Peage £343
Travel Ins £118
One meal out £33
Grand Total £1,935
It was worth every centime! Think of what we've saved by staying at home sheilding
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Having learned that most of the borders on the Continent will be opened by 15th June and being on the other side of the Channel already, we've decided to take the plunge and leave for France later this month. The campsite that we want to stay at was opened the day before yesterday, but of course at the moment only for residents of France.
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We have four sites booked from end of June. French sites have told us they will hold deposit for 18 months. Just found out from our favourite Castels site that they, and I guess a lot if not all French are opening 13th June, but of course not for us.
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Just wondering why with a week to get each way you used toll roads (apart from the ones round towns which make economic sense)? We do use them but we are limited to 2-3 weeks and always use them to get out of Northern France but if we had 6 weeks would probably not.
Of course your choice and I know although scenic these little French villages and towns do become boring after a while as to the endless 30km limits, chicanes and traffic lights plus single carriageway roads. Maybe I just answered my own question
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We did what we wanted to do, they way we wanted to do it, and after 16 years touring, including all the regions of France, we went to the places we wanted to go to.
We we stopped first at Arcis sur Aube, then Beaune, then Landry 2 nights to visit our grandsons, then l'Herimitage for a couple of nights, and finally Cavalaire sur Mer.
We know where to get supermarket fuel and supplies as we leave the motorway. We can leave by mid-morning, stop for coffee on any of the numerous Aires on the peage,; a couple of hours more and stop for lunch at another aire, and finally leave the peage mid afternoon to find our site. All tootling along at 60 mph, averaging about 50, and with our emovis tag we can scoot through the non-stop toll
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p.s Calais to Cavalaire via Landry about 900 miles. After 2 weeks at Cavalaire we drove 12 miles along the coast to Saint Clair for another 2 weeks. Different types of site in different settings: the photo is Saint Clair beach just 100 metres from our campsite. So there!
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I admired ChasnCaths frugality - particularly in having only one meal out in six weeks - and was too embarrassed to disclose our own costs. I didn't dare tell you all what we spend on lunches in France - Les Alizes at Roscoff, Le Golfy at La Palmyre, La Cigale in Nantes, Sous Les Micocouliers in Eygalieres, Le Platane in Apt and Les Florets at Gigondas have all pocketed much money from us many times - and hopefully will do again.
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"I admired ChasnCaths frugality - particularly in having only one meal out in six weeks"
We've had our share of fine dining, but we were on a seaside holiday, and besides, Catherine's condition (ILD) means that she's exhausted and abed by 9 pm. So our one little treat was to the ever-popular Brasserie de la Plage for a pizza, steak hache and 50cl of rose.
If you ever camp at Caravanning Saint Clair, all these restaurants are only a short stroll away.
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Costs? Some people choose to spend £70,000 on their ideal car/caravan/Motorhome. We choose to spend a tenth of that but go out for lunch every day when we are holiday instead - and we never look for meals as "cheap as chips"
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Looking at the posts re costs and eating out has been quite saddening as it reminds me of what we are missing!
We would have been on our second overnight en route to Annecy today and my research of the area had included places to eat and cycle paths.
We eat out regularly and it is probably the most missed 'luxury' at the moment and visiting anywhere is for us pointless if we don't feel we will be able to enjoy this.
Our main holidays abroad are mostly with or MH buddies and the usual routine is we cook one day, they the next then we eat out. All flexible or course and we have gone a few days eating our main meal out all the time and vice versa.
As David says we have usually found the a set lunch may be at the, often quoted, bargain price but otherwise its UK level or higher but set menus do often offer reasonable value
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When touring overthere we eat out 2/3 times a week, I wouldn't call it cheap and a regular meal works out about €36 for the two of us including a glass of something, and that glass of something is way overpriced. I will eat anything and don't even think of what has gone into the ingredients, but just enjoy that part of touring which includes eating out. Other days we usually settle outside for a simple salad with the ingredients bought locally, neither one of us likes cooking or have an interest in faffing about with a barbecue.
Wine is drunk most evenings and the cheap variety bought locally suits us fine, Cider is preferable but can be difficult to buy.
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The French tourism minister says that 9 million French normally holiday abroad and he estimates at least half of those will holiday in France this year. He is advising brits wanting to come to get there bookings in. Well of course he would😂 Apparently all large chains / suppliers of accommodation / transport have agreed to be flexible in the event of future lockdowns. I wonder how many of the 4.5 million or so who will be stopping at home will be MH's / Caravaners / Campers. It won't affect us as we have decided to stay at home this year, but availability for ad hoc touring might be problematic.🤔
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We rarely eat out when away in the van, nothing to do with cost I just prefer to eat in the early evening. I don't mind cooking when its nice weather and it can all be done outside.
The only country we have visited in Europe that we really enjoy the food is Germany, so when there we tend to eat out a few times a week but we do know where to look for the more traditional type meals not the stuff that is served to tourists
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Part of the fun for us is shopping in a foreign land! Great to see what the other half eats and follow the local fashion.
Cooking outside is fun too and can make the occasional 'posh' meals all the more enjoyable.
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