Coronavirus: Stay or go
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Bah humbug to you, too😄😂😁
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Did Rowena write that? 😋
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Saw an article about some Folk in a North Wales Village which has a large amount of Holiday Cottages and Static Caravans.Just like Pembrokeshire where I live. They were protesting about owners of these 2nd homes coming to their Village and self Isolating there ( a bit like the Queen going to Windsor or Balmoral).
I have no doubt that the owners are hit with 150% Council Tax as they are here in Dyfed. If they own the properties and are up to date with their Council Tax, then what possible reason could the locals give for not wanting the owners living there ?
Maybe not a Touring issue but a 'Nasty Attitude' issue ?
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Maybe they feel a little as I do in that we don’t have many cases in Cornwall but our health resources are already stretched and the shelves in our shops are stripped of essential items. Do I want a hoard of tourists coming into the area and completely overloading resources and possibly bringing the virus with them? It’s not difficult to guess my answer especially when I won’t be inflicting my presence on other parts of the country for those very reasons.
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I’m curious to know. Should a visitor come down with the symptoms of the virus whilst staying on your site, have you been instructed to inform the Club management with a view to closing the gates and placing a quarantine on the site, preventing all current visitors from leaving and heading home until they have all isolated for a period of time and possibly tested.
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In such a scenario, would everyone be free to leave at their leisure?
if I was a warden on a site, I would certainly want to know what to do if one of the visitors came down with the virus.
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So, if a visitor to your site shows symptoms of the virus, I’m assuming you have been instructed to inform head office, who would in turn inform Public Health England. Following this I’d assume you would be instructed to close the site and prevent any of the current visitors from leaving until such time, as officials deemed everyone camping on your site at the time has quarantined/isolated for a number of days and tested negative, prior to being allowed to leave.
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We haven’t been away since January because of the weather and caring responsibilities, but we will consider a couple of days away locally if only to keep our sanity amongst this madness.
We will fill the water tanks, take fresh drinking water and food with us (local shops here are reasonably well stocked) and reduce our social contact in line with the guidelines. I’m also going to spin round 3 times and spit like I did as a child
.Im sure most of you know this but the advice on social distancing as it relates to travel is for public transport. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-on-social-distancing-and-for-vulnerable-people/guidance-on-social-distancing-for-everyone-in-the-uk-and-protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults
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Do I want a hoard of tourists coming into the area and completely overloading resources
Isn't that waht they do every year TW.
Incidently there are more confirmed cases in Cornwall than here in Central Beds and Milton Keynes. All areas are still quite low though.
peedee
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Why should the whole site be isolated? If somebody contracts the disease and by observing the time he was in tesco from his CC would you suggest everybody with a similar attendance time be isolated as well?
On sites that I use there is limited close social contact in normal times except, perhaps amongst some with friends that might be using the site.
You might be interested to know that if somebody in a working situation is suspected of having contracted the virus then there is no requirement to notify anybody, nor to send anybody else home and so your comments are not valid in the least.
If you contract the virus at home you are not required to contact anybody unless you need assistance.
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If someone were to show signs of contracting the virus whilst on a site then, are you advocating they should hitch up their caravan and drive home. If they were to have serious symptoms, difficulty breathing etc, should they be driving home?
In many cases, where a couple are touring together, only one ‘half’ of the couple may be experienced at driving a caravan car outfit, or large motorhome.Or, if such a case were to arise, does the warden call an ambulance and the suspected case be transferred to a local hospital (tying up resources in an area away from their home)
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This guideline is being quoted all over the place to justify that its ok to continue driving leisure vehicles. It’s a mistake on the Governments part really because there will always be those that treat it literally, rather than applying common sense
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I am advocating nothing. Just giving you better details on advice and requirements. As to whether somebody exhibiting any symptom should hitch up and go home that is purely for them to decide and not you or I.
There is no requirement to call an ambulance, 111 or anybody else simply because somebody exhibits symptoms.
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Have you read the government advice PD or just soundbites and newspaper reportage?
What is social distancing?
Social distancing measures are steps you can take to reduce the social interaction between people. This will help reduce the transmission of coronavirus (COVID-19).They are:
Avoid contact with someone who is displaying symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19). These symptoms include high temperature and/or new and continuous cough
Avoid non-essential use of public transport, varying your travel times to avoid rush hour, when possible
Work from home, where possible. Your employer should support you to do this. Please refer to employer guidance for more information
Avoid large gatherings, and gatherings in smaller public spaces such as pubs, cinemas, restaurants, theatres, bars, clubs
Avoid gatherings with friends and family. Keep in touch using remote technology such as phone, internet, and social media
Use telephone or online services to contact your GP or other essential services
Everyone should be trying to follow these measures as much as is pragmatic.We strongly advise you to follow the above measures as much as you can and to significantly limit your face-to-face interaction with friends and family if possible, particularly if you:
are over 70
have an underlying health condition
are pregnant
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It is all very well to quote what is largely aimed at the working population ET but I have no desire to spend money on traveling to some distant destination just to sit in a tin box however comfortable it might be. If I want fresh air I have the privacy of my garden or a short walk away is open countryside. So for me travel in an LV is not essential.
Judging by the weekend availability many think the same
peedee
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Our Govt should give out advice for those with common sense then in a drop down menu under-‘God like individuals’ & ‘too clever for common sense’ explain what to do starting with-‘move forward with one foot followed by second foot.’ It would pay them to actually target some CT stalwarts for special attention too👍🏻😊
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Have just watched Sky News report from a hospital in Bergamot, Italy. It is absolutely horrendous, rows of patients struggling to breathe, wards overwhelmed, corridors full, exhausted staff, and literally hundreds dying every day. Make no mistake, it’s coming our way, and those that continue with this non essential travel will have contributed to it’s spread. The PM has asked for ALL non essential travel to be curtailed, which unfortunately is not reflected in literature, but he does say ALL.. This disease is not just affecting the old and those with health problems, but everyone, who can then carry the virus spreading it unknowingly via door handles, taps etc, where it stays for 72 hours. Sadly also, the CAMC has not stepped up to the plate and taken a lead to help avoid any confusion by shutting sites. I really do not understand this. Trust me, the footage was harrowing, and the doctors there are telling us to take EVERY precaution to stop the spread, so I would ask people to look closely at themselves and wonder if their activities are exacerbating the problem.
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I suspect that it all depends on what one wishes to do whilst away. If you desire meals out, bar facilities, leisure facilities, visits to stately homes and museums or if perhaps normally use public transport whilst away then there is little if any of that available and few would chose to use public transport.
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I hope that other countries will learn from the costly mistakes that Italy made at the beginning of their outbreak, the perfect storm seemed to occur back then☹️
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As stated before Italy & Spain suffers more because the town residents moved out to stay with relatives in the countryside taking the virus with them. Thats the key issue of why Vaners, second homers should NOT be moving about. In addition as someone said the local resources are already under strain,why add more to it. Just selfish B....ds
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The Italian doctors interviewed simply cannot understand why the U.K. residents are still not on a lockdown, and are giving the government dire warnings about their lack of action to prevent the spread of the virus. I despair at the arrogant reluctance of some people who have not woken up to the dire seriousness of the situation and continue regardless of the risk to others. The government has again begged people to stop ALL unnecessary travel, and the NHS is writing to millions of people at risk to tell them to stay at home from next Monday.
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