New Booking System

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  • Twos more then one
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    edited September 2022 #62

    That is development time ,not implementation period in the real world ,there is a massive difference 
    It is not unusual for most new things to have real world issues, that where not sorted in development 
    For instance new  model vehicle recalls is common, not unusual 

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2022 #63

    So you don't see taking duplicate deposit payments as being unusual or a matter worthy of comment?

  • Chelty
    Chelty Forum Participant Posts: 48
    edited September 2022 #64

    I hope one of the "issues" being resolved is to include the name of the campsite in the summary of current bookings.  It is absurd to have to click to view each one in turn to find out where it is.

    Unless I have just failed it to find it the loss of the ability to view site availability in terms of type of pitch (i.e. the old "if you are flexible on date view by month") is a great shame. I hope it will be re-instated soon. 

    If one was a cynic you might assume removing the facility is so that we can't see that weekends are still fully booked for months ahead, the prevention of which was supposed to be the reason for introducing deposits. 

  • Twos more then one
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    edited September 2022 #65

    Where have i posted that ?
    All i have posted is give the club a reasonable time to sort out the issues.

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2022 #66

    Could be it works differently on different devices. I tried North Yorkshire on my iPad for this weekend. Like you it came up with no results  found and a map of the area round settle. However, there was a button below to search for nearby sites. This brought up a map showing Hawes, Lower Wensleydale, Thirsk,  Wharfedale, Bolton Abbey and Knaresborough. The sites all showed Full but were listed down the left hand side.

    One things certain it isn’t user friendly and hasn’t been adequately tested. Why for instance when I start typing North Yorkshire do I get places with north in Canada and the USA. There seems to have been very little attention applied to detail in the sites development.

     

  • wedgy
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    edited September 2022 #67

    New car recalls are by and large a thing of the past and have nothing in common with IT system roll outs 

    The club are fortunate to have members as compliant and easily pleased.

    There is no excuse for the incompetent implementation of the new system. 

  • peedee
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    edited September 2022 #68

    Unless I have just failed it to find it the loss of the ability to view site availablilty in terms of type of pitch (i.e. the old "if you are flexible on date view by month") is a great shame. I hope it will be re-instated soon.

    When you are in "Late availability" and looking at the chosen site by selecting "Book now" as you change the pitch type so the calender changes to show the availabailty of the type selected.

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  • peedee
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    edited September 2022 #70

    Good for you TG. One of the problems is there does not appear to be any help or prompts on how to use the new booking system. You learn by trial and error which many are having difficulty with and are too quick to complain. I was equally guilty of this when I could not find the detail of CLs.

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  • Chelty
    Chelty Forum Participant Posts: 48
    edited September 2022 #71

    "late availability"  when looking at July 2023 ?

  • peedee
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    edited September 2022 #73

    What is done is done and I doubt there will be any going back. I also have never not turned up without good reason (I broke down once) and have rarely cancelled and when I have it has been with considerable notice. I think the new system will be much fairer.

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  • Twos more then one
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    edited September 2022 #74

    New car recalls are not a thing of the past, they are most certainty not 
    Compliant members, i suggest you read the posts which prove they most certainly are not 

     

  • peedee
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    edited September 2022 #75

    Not sure what you are saying, "Late availabilty" works for all bookable dates for all the rolling year i.e a year in advance.

    I have just checked this out for Easter 2023. looking for a service pitch at Broadway.

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  • peedee
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    edited September 2022 #76

    Lots of very obvious mistakes on the website, really basic stuff like number of hardstanding pitches, so clearly inadequate checking.

    That could just be down to careless data entry, a soul distroying job if ever there was one.

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  • CaravanRamblings
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    edited September 2022 #77

    I don't think you can make that assumption at all. I've spent a lifetime in IT and seen a lot worse implementations than this.

    I've seen IT lead ones which haven't been properly owned by the business and I've seen business lead ones where IT have been shouting the system isn't ready but the business wants to go live anyway.

    For example, the launch of the NHS Covid booking system was much worse than this and that had virtually unlimited amounts of money tossed at it and it didn't even need a payments engine!!! How much did Test and Trace cost (10s of billions) and it never worked.

    Give the folks a break. A lot worse things happening in this world than being kicked off a caravan booking system.

    I'm sure they'll sort the teething troubles.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2022 #78

    Teething troubles? After two years! And several delayed starts 

    If  when it had been tested at site level during Training! and it seems many problems came to light.   why was it not tested again before being implemented?

    As said by site staff via a phone call yesterday "we are not in high enough wages grade to be expected to know?"

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2022 #79

    I wonder if you’d be so complacent if it was your money they'd taken twice🤔

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2022 #80

    I think people might be a little more forgiving if this was the first time the club's IT systems had goofed but it isn’t.

  • lindenlea
    lindenlea Forum Participant Posts: 15
    edited September 2022 #81

    Rowen

    The  original booking system worked fine seemed it only needed a bolt on financial package similar to using online purchases

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2022 #82

    Plus the 72hr cancellation period that a few seemed very vocal about   was extended

  • CaravanRamblings
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    edited September 2022 #83

    Well, I've listened to social media slate off the old systems for years and you can't run old software for ever. Period.

    Now they bought a state of the art package and everyone wants to turn the clock back...

     

    And we aren't yet 1 week in!!!

  • facilitym
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    edited September 2022 #84

    My booking was going well, until I had to enter DoB for my wife and I. Using the calendar offered must have been designed by a younger person .... Do you know how many times I have to click to go back one month at a time to my DoB? I gave up because I lost the will to live at over 100.

    Why not the common approach of displaying the format you need and then allow free entry?

  • Chelty
    Chelty Forum Participant Posts: 48
    edited September 2022 #85

    Peedee - I see what you mean, thanks for that.

    Actually you can get to it by just going to book, don't need to go through Late  Availability. But as you say you have to look at each pitch type in turn, you can't see them all at once. 

  • CaravanRamblings
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    edited September 2022 #86

    I believe you can click on the year and choose the year and then month.

    At least that's what they are saying on FB

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2022 #87

    I think only a few people are calling for the return of the old system, not everyone by any means. You exaggerate greatly there.

    The vast majority of folk are expressing discontent with the new system, finding and sharing work arounds and, by doing so, are pointing the club in the right direction, hopefully.

    I think you do your fellow members a disservice by slighting them in such a manner.

  • CaravanRamblings
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    edited September 2022 #88

    I'd be extremely relaxed. The club will sort it out.

    As a frequent internet purchaser this happens all the time to me. Best was Brittany Ferries taking 3 times excess of a grand each one. Stuck in Berlin when Ryanair cancelled the daily flight for 3 days.

    Perspective I feel.

    Pay by credit card if you don't trust the company to sort it out as it is very easy to get the card issuer to sort it out with a charge back.

     

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2022 #89

     .... software for ever. Period.

    Argh! you mean FULL STOP .....

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2022 #90

    You certainly can on the iPad. You can even scroll the wheel back into the 1800’s 😂

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2022 #91

    This is off topic, and I apologise, but given this is a busy thread will pass on information for anyone who has missed it

    Club HQ closed on Monday, and Club Site receptions will be closed as well, for Queens funeral. Had email from HQ, Hope message has got through to others as well.👍 Suggest no related comments.