UK sites with metered electricity
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Yes I am indeed fortunate and remind myself of that everyday.
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Some friends and us have often in the past used a full board aparthotel on Majorca ,,over one weekend there was a big party of Spanish residents came to stay,
The manager had already told us in advance that he did not want them there because of their previous behaviour. but his head office had booked them
On the Monday he came to the six of us and apologised again and gave each coupl a voucher for a weeks stay at our convenience as a token of his,and company's appreciation for what we had to endure from the Spanish. who every time they used the restraunt he and his staff had to do a full clean down
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There are two main reasons for smart meters. It does seem a bit pointless when we have the technology to send a person around checking meters so why not do it remotely? It might be a tenuous link but not having to employ thousands of meter readers cuts cost a lot which may have an influence on what you are charged. Also helps the environment as it cuts out tens of thousands of car journeys visiting homes. The other reason is to provide the the consumer with more information. People can make of that what they will. However if we are trying save both the environment and your money the reader can be a tool to help us do that. It might well depend on how committed individuals are to achieving those goals. We can all throw up our hands and say there is nothing I can do about my energy charges but I suspect as prices rise even higher people start to show a bit more interest in how much and when they use energy.
David
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Oh I'm sure there are a number of reasons cutting out meter readers is but one. As I mentioned we don't have one and I really can't remember the last time anyone came to read ours or even put a card through the door.
We have recently changed suppliers, even then no one came to check the readings we supplied are accurate.
Our previous company allowed us to give figures once a quarter and then they would bill us from supplied figures. The new company we have to do a DD and supply readings once a month. We are so well in advance in payments but as we have been away for months on end I think it will sort itself out over winter when we do tend to use much more electric.
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Still seems a shame that people are not employed or loose their job over this. Similar to self service checkouts at the supermarkets. I personally never use these, would rather keep someone in a job. I don’t think either have an influence on what the customer is charged, just more for the business/shareholders.
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We stayed on a CS from the C&CC in September, where the first 15 units of electricity were included in the price, but anything over that you had to pay for. The meters were read religiously by the owner and noted down. We checked ours every day, out of interest, and on average we used about 9 per day. It was an all year CL, so in winter, if you were using the heating on electric, and/or had a heater in the awning, you'd certainly use above those 15 units. I personally have no objection to meters on sites.
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In the words of my Mum, who regularly unplugs her Smartmeter “how can a device I have to plug in, help to save electrical consumption🤷♀️“
There is simply only one way of keeping energy consumption down, and therefore any costs down, and that is to simply not use as much. Basic common sense.
We have used lots of cottages with metered electricity in the past, they are rarer now. Not come across a Site yet with meters, but it wouldn’t bother us at all. Many CLs offer metered showers. Yes, we would be in favour of metering on Club Sites. Failing that, the option to use any pitch, but with the option to be with or without hook up. We do use CLs that offer this option. The saving on the last one we used was around £3 per night, but that was in Summer months.
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Dakota Park CL has meters. You get a fixed amount in your fee, and pay for the rest. (I cant remember how much was included). They have installed those to existing power posts this year. I dont know what they had to do to do that. We stayed in September, used our normal electricity for hot water. Cooking was with gas. The mornings were a bit chilly once or twice so we did use the electricity for a bit of heating - but not much. We came within our allocation.
The meter was read at start and finish, and we were shown.
Personally I do think electricity should be metered. I think we should pay for what we use.
The owner of this site and us had quite a long conversation about the various costs of running the CL and what costs CL owners were seeing increase. For example, their insurance had rocketed in price.
On smart meters, we do have one. We got it so that we could take advantage of additional electricity rates - such as 4 hours 2.30am to 6.30am at 5p a unit. Use it for charging the car, heating the water, starting off the washing machine. The presence of the meter doesnt make us change our habits - its the price plan we are on that does that. We also have solar.
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This discussion has made me think, given all that has come (or not come) from the COP 26 then maybe it is time for the CAMC to meter their electricity. We have all experienced or heard of members who heat their awnings, open doors because the heating in the van has got too warm, etc, or don’t think of how much electricity they are using because, ‘they have paid for it’. Given global warming maybe now is the time for meters. We have been members for many many years and I do seem to remember meters at one time, or maybe I’m mistaken and that wasn’t the Caravan Club.
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If CAMC want to reduce the electricity bill then they could reduce the amperage to the pitch to say 6amps.
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Another move that could help re consumption. We have been on a few CLs where fellow visitors have tripped bollards more than once because they simply don’t or won’t consider how much power they are consuming. Upping the available amperage panders to the profligate.
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I'm going to adopt this approach to reducing my electricity usage!
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That would probably alienate about 90% of members? Working with a lower amperage is fine in the summer but as the Club encourages people to use their vans all year round it wouldn't work. OK I know people can use gas but as most people are struggling to find gas supplies at the moment it would put a lot off. If the question is how do you reduce electricity consumption on sites the answer is probably to have a metered supply. Those that use it the most pay for what they use and those that use very little or alternatives, would pay very little.
David
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10 amps wouldn’t be an issue for us even in winter. It’s enough for the heating, fridge and battery charger. Everything else is gas. On 6 Amps the heating just goes on E1. It means we don’t have the issue of remembering to turn something off before putting something else on. If the amperage was cut, I would prefer 10 amps as on E1 the heating would not be sufficient on a cold winters day.
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I would say 6A is too much but reducing to 10A would be fine, people would have to think about what appliances they use however pitch fees would have to reduce to make compensation?
My preferred option is still EHU or NO EHU with a suitable reduction in the pitch fee of say £6 a night.
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North Ledaig is 10A and we never had a problem with it in numerous visits in all sorts of weathers.
We did trip a 4A supply in Ireland but that was because we didn't know it was only 4A.
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I know people can easily and do survive on less but the same question, would you expect less amps in a hotel or holiday cottage?
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Yes but 10,000 - 20,000 pitches to buy for plus installation costs by an electrician?
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Yes agree they probably won't. But a good point, no matter where I've worked there has always been a sticker to say the computer, monitor, in fact any electrical device whatever has been checked, are sites and EHUs checked yearly?
Post edit in fact in my last place there was a directive that Christmas tree lights that people brought in for their desks and offices had to checked before use.
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