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  • Unknown
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    edited June 2021 #812
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  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #813

    I would rather have the toothache than wear the mask. I take inhalers because my breathing tubes are swollen due to having rhuemetoid arthritis and find it hard to breath with the mask on.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2021 #814

    You do keep harping on about “people dying from other causes” and wanting to know the numbers. Yes they are, but they were before the pandemic, and will be after it. If you are wanting to find out if people have died because resources have been diverted, clinics, treatment cancelled, then you might have to wait a bit on that, because this isn’t over yet. But there have been excess death numbers (over and above the usual statistics) compiled and in the public domain weekly.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #815

    In that case you may be exempt from wearing one. Have you checked with your doctor?

  • Bakers2
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    edited June 2021 #816

    Is an exemption not appropriate then?

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited June 2021 #817

    Try a face shield instead, ,it also helps us who are hard of hearing and tend to lipread

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #818

    Possibly but then that brings on all the tutting and snide remarks from the self righteous.

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #819

    Does that mean then that only covid deaths count.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #820

    Silly boy ,it really shows you have not the slightest concept of the real world or you are just trollingundecided

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #821

    Why is suggesting hearing aids silly when you are hard of hearing please explain. Another one with the trolling accusation. Please explain trolling

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2021 #822

    The figures given are not actually deaths from Covid, but all deaths of people who tested positive for Covid. It therefore includes deaths other than from Covid.

  • rutlandwarrior
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    edited June 2021 #823

    I am afraid that at the moment the NHS are only concerned by covid deaths and no other illness matters. 

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #824

    But they class them as covid deaths. They don’t say x amount from covid and x amount from people who tested positive from covid. They say how many deaths. So basically some could be from other ailments, but they don’t tell you that. Why not? Maybe part of the fear factor.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #825

    DT, I have no problem at all with you or anyone else having a different opinion to the mainstream view. What I do take issue with is the attempt to spread misinformation and posts made with the deliberate intention of winding people up. 

    I am a person, not a gang, and find the use of that term, and the implication behind it, offensive. I wouldn’t dream of using it to define you and any like minded people so please have the courtesy to treat those who do not agree with you with respect.

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #826

    Did I mention you as one of the gang? If the cap fits then wear it. What misinformation am I spreading. If the fact that not agreeing with you winds you or any one else up I can’t help you

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2021 #827

    The nearest overall estimates of deaths, from the ONS, have been published for 2020 for England and Wales and are Total deaths 614,036; Covid related deaths 81,669

    and they are found here along with weekly totals for 2021.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcobirthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

     

     

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #828

    But not published daily like the suposed covid deaths that are published daily to scare you.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2021 #829

    That is a total load of balloney, and an insult to all those that work for the NHS.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #830

    It just shows how ignorant you seem to be with no concept of real life ,hearing aids are not the be all and end all of hearing loss, as I do have hearing aids and they are not from the NHS but a well known specialist hearing aid company and is what they would tell anyone who suffers hearing loss,

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2021 #831

    But Dave, you conveniently quoted those daily figures when you thought they supported your point of view (remember - "10 deaths today, not bad"). undecided

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2021 #832

    I'm glad you said that, Nellie,  and far more politely than I might have done. yell

    We have 3 family members who work for various parts of the NHS and, although things are slightly better right now, they have been stretched to the absolute limit over the past 18 months - not one of them works on a "covid ward".

     

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #833

    Yes I do remember and from what I have just read from a reply on here that total could be les than 10 from covid. So they support my point of view even more now

  • davetommo
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    edited June 2021 #834

    Just like a screen is not the be all and end all of face coverings. There is a lot more to real life than hearing aids and screens.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #835

    Needs must as if you would understand, with your change of stance every time your posts are put rightundecided

  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #836

    This is the daily Covid summary from gov.uk LINK

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #837

    Ok was I put right then. But it puzzles me how

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #838

    Looking at that I really don’t see what all the panic is about

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2021 #839

    DT, I wish you and your toothache, nasal challenges well, however, much as I enjoy a battle of wits, I am kind enough not to take on the unarmed........😉

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2021 #840

    Who said anything about "panic", you perhaps? Being cautious does not mean that there is anything to panic about, it's about ensuring that there isn't!😊

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2021 #841

    As for who said anything about panic, you need to read more than just on here. As for being cautious we have been so no need to panic