Possible new Covid restrictions next week
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No I didn’t, but you should share that with David, not me, it was his source.
However, surely you’re not suggesting they are anything less than genuine? Was Boaty McBoatface on there as well?
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This is the link I provided https://gbdeclaration.org/ Might I encourage people only go as far as the co-signers as any open form/petition is likely to encourage high number numpties to sign, especially those that want to discredit the proposals without taking any responsibility? Given that it is proposed by some very eminent scientists it does have to be considered with some seriousness whether we agree or not.
The more serious point is that they are putting forward an alternative strategy to combat COVID 19. I am no idea how successful it would be and in my view it does risk a much higher death rate from COVID as I am not sure how successful it would be at protecting the vulnerable. However imagine that we don't have a working vaccine next year or even the year year after. The world can't stay locked down for ever so the longer the current situation continues I would suggest the idea of herd immunity will start to appeal more. It's not something that I particularly support but I am interested in the science.
David
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It seems to me that their whole idea revolves around the premise that herd immunity is something that can be achieved.
They say: We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine.
All that is fine, but they don't offer any proof that herd immunity can actually be achieved, or if it is achieved just how long it will last either in the individual or the herd.
As far as I'm aware we have never achieved herd immunity against influenza, another coronavirus.
Perhaps the current Uni breeding grounds will prove the point one way or the other and I hope that they are being monitored.
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well actually i found out that you are allowed to exercise fido, which is what i was doing, but i can assure you i was probably 100m away from others.
I can also inform you that track and trace contacted me PM today to make sure i was abiding by the rules set out by my mates Matt/Boris, i told them also that i had only been out to exercise Fido but well away from the general public, they were ok with this.
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David, having read it, especially regarding retired people and those in residential homes I really dont agree with the sentiments put forward especially the care of the vulnerable elderly, virtually imprisoned till the virus blows over? How long will that be? There are nearly 12 million people in the 65+ age group in the uk.
How strange to have left it open to all and sundry to sign without in depth evidence.
I'd like to be a bit braver and sign up for the vaccine tests!
Science is interesting, yes, I agree.
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good thinking, Rufs.👏🏻👏🏻
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Yes indeed, to ask after my health and asked if i needed the cocktails he had been taking, I told him i did not, as i was in the best of health, only 7 days of self isol. to go
p.s son in law recovering, he is only 55 but knocked him for 6 for 4 or 5 days, hopefully he will not have any long term effects
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well i just asked the guys on NHS track and trace who telephoned me at home , and they said no problem, provided i did not enter any public places such as shops, restaurants, pubs, those sorts of places it would not be a problem. Fortunately we have lots of open space close by including the beach so no probs keeping away from others.
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That's just what I thought brue, and I just checked out the NHS Web page -
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/
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I am trying to figure out why Nottingham doesn’t appear to have extra restrictions in place🤔 Or are the powers that be having the weekend to think about it🤷♀️
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Yes, why not let all those potentially infectious dog owners have special treatment and get out there and mix with the community. What could possibly go wrong facilitating the mix of pathogens and infected genetic material from animals and humans apart from HIV, Ebola and CV19 of course?
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A little OTT there SB?
HIV? Ebola? If this is a joke it's in very poor taste
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Not OTT at all if you consider the recent history of novel viruses and their origins, All of those killer human diseases mentioned have been created when a virus has crossed from the animal to human world. Scientific opinion seems to agree that dogs (and other animals) can be infected with CV19 and carry viral material on their coats. Under the circumstances I believe we should be reducing the prospect of mutation rather than facilitating it. I’m sure they would have dismissed the idea as a joke in Chinese wet markets before December 2019.
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What about birds? They can spread bugs. What do you propose for them?
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There is no evidence that coronavirus passes between animals or that pets transmit the virus to humans
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-advice-for-people-with-animals.
Perhaps the government is incorrect and posting misleading information?
Also the joke being in very poor taste I was referring I was referring to was your statement about HIV and Ebola and any connection with walking a dog.
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No, the transmission of viruses from China was ignored previously when WHO and UN asked them to stop these practices after the SARS outbreak (the MERS outbreak was similar in the Middle East via camels/other animals/raw food etc.) China is now resuming some of the markets.
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