Possible new Covid restrictions next week
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"Scientific opinion seems to agree that dogs (and other animals) can be infected with CV19 and carry viral material on their coats"
Scientific opinion agrees on nothing of the sort - in fact I think you yourself said earlier in the thread something along the lines of different scientists having different opinions, didn't you? Of course, you might be able to provide a link to support your statement above?
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I don't understand that at all, what are North politicians?
And how are they (whoever they are) wanting more money?
Who are the innocents? Come to that who are the guilty?
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I think Fish is referring to the trio of Mayors, currently unhappy at the loss of income likely to hit big northern cities if businesses are locked down again.
Unless it’s the less than happy Red Wall newbies........ 🤔
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Ah OK thanks. Although I wouldn't personally class them as politicians.
Anyway seems unfair and incorrect to say none of the North politicians are acknowledging that most of the problem is down to their own citizens
Are they their citizens? I thought the problems are down to the virus?
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I took Fish mean that the problem was the spread of the virus, and that is caused by the citizens not taking due care and attention to what they've been asked to do.
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Did I? I can't remember that at all Freddy? I think you may have me confused with someone else?
My stance has not changed one bit, follow the advice given.
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Perhaps, anyway not my point. It was the acknowledgment part of his post
People were told it was 'safe' to reopen pubs and restaurants and indeed to use them (eat out and all that...) and where we have been told that is where the new infections are coming from (hence the new rules). They were following the rules and advice given at the time?
But I'm still puzzled as to Fish's suggestion that the mayors should acknowledge that 'their citizens' caused the current problems as he suggested, if they were following the laws and rules as they were at the time?
And is a mayor responsible for a citizens' actions? I have no idea.
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From what I've seen first hand the citizens have eaten out to help out and used the pubs but many have not kept to the social distancing and mixing guidelines. They have very successfully provided excellent conditions for the virus to spread and it has taken good advantage of the opportunities. Those people and the rest of us now have to suffer the consequences of their behavior.
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Freddy, I think you're confusing Corners with a certain orange President😄
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One of my grand-daughters is at Uni and has been isolating for 13 days due to a contact proving positive. Heard yesterday that oner of her flat-mates has now tested positive so the 14 day quarantine starts all over again. That'll be 27 days in solitary. She's not a happy bunny.
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Its the halls of residence that seem to be the problem areas. One of my grandsons has CV19 caught in the halls. Two granddaughters, 2nd and 3rd years students who live in digs sharing costs with 4/5 others and keeping themselves in a bubble have been fine.
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I feel sorry for students, some of the new halls of residence are designed like rabbit hutches and must have contributed to the infection rates with too many packed in together. The uni leaders could have foreseen problems but income has dominated their judgement. I hope all your student families recover and stay well.
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Some cracking posts in the Corona Worries thread and others.
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"The virus is less contagious than flu, it is was like flu the number of cases now would be about 50,000 not 17"
"well prof John whatever his name today said that the virus was far far less contagious than flu, and he seemed to have a pretty good idea of what was going on and going to happen. I'll believe him."
"The WHO figures are 200,000 - 500,000 annually with a peak of 560,000 deaths from flu. A University of Edinburgh study stated a 200,000 global number for 2019.
If the current projected death rate is now 0.5% - to 1% and not 3% of infected cases, together with this virus being far less contagious I can't see how the death rate exceeding your one million? [globally]"
"I know exactly what you mean, I had a meeting yesterday and of course shook hands with a number of total strangers before we all went in
After meeting them I went through into an office and as soon as I was out of sight I got the hand sanitizer out, yes totally silly or whatever but I did it anyway."
"Latest number of people infected is 115. Population of Britain is 66,000,000 so that is one person in every 574,000 people that have the infection. Puts it into a bit of perspective I think.
"Yes, not worth worrying over , you stand a better chance of winning the lottery"
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One person even tried to debate the meaning of a new and continuous cough.
A lot of learning has taken place by everyone and that includes the scientists and hopefully the politicians. There is probably a lot more to come.
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Further to LLM’s post check this. It’s for anyone who has doubts to the actual rules/Laws. If you are looking for wriggle room or trying to square the circle you are not being clever-
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A lot of new accommodation for students are in flats of 3-4 people with a communal area, but also have self contained flats too dependent on the budget. Students are adults and have to take some responsibility for their own wellbeing. The university where I work is like a ghost town with hardly any students on campus.
Additionally many universities are struggling financially At the moment (not due to COVID) and if they don’t get the income this year there may be no universities left for young people to go to or certainly less choice and more competitive.
We were in Pickering yesterday on what should have been 1940s weekend. Lots of older people congregating in large groups in costume (maskless) singing and dancing and determined to continue as normal It’ seems all ages in society are unable to follow instructions
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I do agree the newer halls are exactly that, built for maximum profit. Not only that they are losing out on all that university life has to offer too, a small price to pay considering everything else but still a loss.
Also many are paying £9000, (or will pay at some point) a year for on line teaching, and paying for student accommodation on top of that when of course they could have done the on-line teaching from home.
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I doubt it JV, the world is full of folk that are sense blind🤷🏻♂️
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That is just what our Grand daughter ,has said when we have spoken to her ,and those she is in accommodation with (now having to isolate because of one (from the Westcountry? )who did not think
,she and some of her flatmates are thinking of not going back after this term
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Being a bus driver working lates what we see in our city centre when the pubs kick out is unbelievable not just from the student population. Police and local enforcement officers stretched to the limit.
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Well, it seems some folk are not "all in this together" as much as they maybe should be!
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Interestingly enough (well for me anyway) those 16,000 or so lost tests were all (it has been said) due to using an older version of an Excel file, see:
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You are most welcome-obfuscation should never be a tool against truth & sense👍🏻😊
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Twas ever thus, Frank, and clearly covid hasn't changed the ways of folk in club land.
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Do agree about not getting the university experience although the students unions are providing socially distanced events.
However fees are not just for teaching, think of programme administration, IT, books in libraries, heating, lighting, catering building maintenance etc. Programme administration is huge, lots of people delivering a quality curriculum and in the current crisis arranging online teaching at short notice where appropriate rather than leave students with nothing. Yes, accommodation is a problem, but lots of students don’t live in halls (old fashioned) and choose to privately rent.
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