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Why blame the parents?🤔. A 17yr old child is not born complete at 17yrs old, we first get a baby, we then bring the baby up instilling into the baby respect for those around/fellow humans & the rule of law, the flora & fauna, further rules & regulations if we’ve done a good job we get a 17yr old that does not go to another country then lies to get alcohol then brings the virus to the child’s own parents & area. If we’ve failed we get what Fish has told us. That’s why I blame the parents. I took full responsibility for all my children until they set up home for themselves. It’s called responsibility.
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Don't know a 17 year old who hasn't lied to get alcohol
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That’s why I blame the parents. I took full responsibility for all my children until they set up home for themselves. It’s called responsibility.
Ours didn't set up home until there early 20's. Whilst we still helped / offered guidance, as we still do, they were responsible adults by that stage. All you can do is try and install the right values in the formative years. I still remember my son at about 17 ringing up from a rural party he had gone to with mates. There were drugs in use on the premises (not that common then) and he didn't want anything to do with it. He walked away.
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Prior to the Covid-19 pandemic I’d agree with you but In today’s pandemic I’d expect a stepping up considering this thing has taken over 42,000 lives. That’s a bit more serious than teenage shenanigans. I’m not willing to nit pick where this pandemic is concerned. I know people who’ve died in this pandemic so forgive me not wanting to play games.
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I don’t think it’s an age thing, we have encountered folks of all ages stepping over the boundaries. I can understand the frustration, the “it won’t happen to me” bravado.
I look at someone like DT and see a moral compass that has been damaged, and the lack of empathy and degree of selfishness means such folks will never understand.
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I don't think its selfish or immoral to want to get back to normality. We need to get the economy going pretty soon and if you look at the news more and more people are starting to question the curbing of liberties. I fully understand some peoples worries about the virus and if you are that worried just isolate as much as possible and stay away from crowds when shopping leaving others to get on with life. We can't hide away forever as the virus is with us for a long time yet so we have to make the best of it.
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Of course it's not selfish to want that but it is selfish to carry on regardless putting other folk at risk by ignoring the rules.
Frankly, advocating staying at home if we're worried while the rest carry on as normal is an irresponsible view in my book. It may be unintended but you appear to suggest those being careful are the odd folk and they should stay away to allow others to carry on in a thoughtless manner.
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It was ever thus I think? Double standards. But I'm full of admiration for the majority who are soldiering on, trying to do the right thing. The hard bit now is getting through the coming winter, it's going to be tough for everyone. Stay safe and well.
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Frankly, advocating staying at home if we're worried while the rest carry on as normal is an irresponsible view in my book. It may be unintended but you appear to suggest those being careful are the odd folk and they should stay away to allow others to carry on in a thoughtless manner.
Totally agree TW. Many of us who post on here are drawing pensions that mean we can easily decide wether we want to stay at home or not. Many in a similar age / at risk group are not so lucky and don't have the luxury of making such a decision.
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I suspect that if the virus is "let rip" it would wipe out or seriously injure with long term complications, most of those over 60 and those of all ages with underlying health conditions. I have no idea how many people that would be but how many lives do you think "getting back to normality" is worth?
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The alternative is to bankrupt the country and then everyone's stuffed
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The middle way has been chosen and would have a good chance of working if folk behaved responsibly.
Your way would also see the country bankrupt as businesses would fold due to people catching and dying of Covid. Think it through, CG.
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You cannot lock away part of the population while the rest carry on mixing and spreading the disease.
Hi TW, I agree with that, which is why I am struggling to get my head around the recent news that, whilst many outdoor events are forbidden, possibly leading to the collapse of venues and sports clubs, I can buy a ticket to go to the Royal Albert Hall at Christmas??
The notice says proudly: 'Welcome to the Royal Albert Hall. We're back for Christmas.'
Indeed they are. Back with the Royal Choral Society on December 9, Guy Barker's Big Band on December 11, an Orchestral Adventure on December 13, Handel's Messiah on December 15, plus four days of carols and The Nutcracker post-Christmas.
'There will be a maximum of 3,000 audience members at any one performance,' the RAH explain, 'in addition to around 100 members of front of house, security and catering staff. Our usual capacity is 5,272, staff excluded.'
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It is complete nonsense to suggest that sensible precautions to control COVID will bankrupt the economy. PwC predict a 11/12% contraction in the UK economy in 2020, for comparison the 2008 banking crisis shrunk the economy by around 7% so whilst worse it is not massively so. Clearly there have been different sectors that have been affected this time round which might lead to a greater rise in unemployment which is to be regretted but the safety of our citizens is paramount.
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I think the Royal Albert Hall is the same as many venues ,hoping that things improve, to enable them to open with the restrictions they have set up there, so it may not go ahead ,as in our area , many shows have been cancelled and refunds issued
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Allan&Jean, as much as I'd love to see Guy Barker I was incredulous at the thought of 3000+ people packed into the Royal Albert Hall!! The musician in our family has only managed a couple of sessions during Covid, both outdoors with a very small audience. I can't think that an indoor concert on that scale will not contain some who will be spreading a dose of Covid to the unwitting.
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Which bit is sensible and which bit is nonsense ?, the situation is fluid and changes daily. Like a Snowball the decline in business can and will decline as the situation gathers momentum . Nearly all businesses live off others in some shape or form. Personally I think it is nonsense to not realise that the country could go bankrupt in such conditions.
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The main reason it seems according to those that say they understand , The death rate is lower for now , because the advances that have been achieved in understanding the virus and ways of treating it, And that could alter if those who think they are not affected still flout what as in other countries keep ignoring the best advise known at this time
Germany is having problems with some of their population, even with them enduring the worst reccession in their later history
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Blame no one but the idiots themselves. Dont pass the blame to others. Everyone is aware that social distancing is the best option, its that simple and has been hammered home for over 6 months. I have no sympathy for these local youngsters and they alone should be dealt with severely. Likewise any other transgressors should also be dealt with as compliance by ALL is the only way forward.
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