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Have fun by all means but not at the expense of others. Doing otherwise is just plain selfish.
One of the reasons Italy has been able to keep the virus under control after its very bad start is that they are very family orientated..,They respect, value and care for the older members of their community. Fun does not take precedence but is still had in abundance.
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The bit that is nonsense is the suggestion that we will become bankrupt due to COVID. It has, and will continue to do so, increase our debt which in time will no doubt lead to increases in taxation in order to reduce that debt. We have been here before in different guises over the years. If we were at the risk of going bankrupt the Government wouldn't be able to borrow at such favourable terms and as such the Government wouldn't have been so generous in the support it has provided.
There are a few poster who put forward the theory that those that are vulnerable should continue to shield and remove themselves from society to allow the rest to get back to "normal". I imagine by this they mean no restrictions on what is allowed to open, pubs,football ground etc. Basically they are suggesting we go for herd immunity? Will that work? To a degree but at what cost. This virus is still mutating and we don't quite know how that will pan out so it could be a dangerous option. Perhaps we need to remind ourselves what happened with the Spanish Flu which lasted for two years, the second year being more deadly than the first. I am sure we don't want to go there?
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I quite like the idea that we each make our own risk assessment and behave according to the results. There can then be a whole range of responses from the complete hermit to the gung-ho brigade.
The bit that I can't see working though is those at the gung-ho end of the spectrum altering their behaviour when they might encounter someone who wishes a more restricted range of contacts. For an example, a gang of gung-ho chaps waiting outside the pub until a near-hermit finishes his meal and leaves.
So we are stuck with someone deciding where on that spectrum we all must behave - and that "someone" seems to be our governments. What is reassuring is that while no-one should be allowed to be more gung-ho than the prescribed level for the time being, those who wish to tend more towards the hermit end can do so.
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If this is a wind up, you have crossed the line. Have some compassion for those who have lost their lives and the families and friends left behind.
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This is just a paragraph from an article i have been reading on how China controlled the corona virus, interesting but lock down procedures do to seem to work, Italy adopted similar stringent measures and they too seem to be in a much better place than the UK at present.
"The Chinese lockdown was more intense than almost anywhere else in the world. Neighborhood committees, the most grassroots level of Communist Party organization, enforced the rules, and in many places they limited households to sending one individual outside every two or three days to buy necessities. If a family were suspected of exposure to the virus, it wasn’t unheard-of for their door to be sealed shut while tests and contact-tracing were being conducted. "
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Why would it be a wind up don't get it
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With all the moderation on this thread it has lost all sense ,if a post is moderated the answer should also be moderated? otherwise it loses( as this and many other posts) any continuity
An answer rather than post removed would be welcome
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Neither guidelines or advice have to be followed, unless the formal definitions have changed since I last looked. However the thread has been effectively destroyed, presumably never to be resurrected, so no point is continuing with it. I wonder if that was the intention?
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well yes one does,
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Amongst all the misery involving covid. This story really touched me.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-54366336
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The fact that we could not become Bankrupt over Covid 19 or any other cause and to borrow to the extent that countries are is nonsense. The fact that people do not accept it...... is nonsense. We like all countries are allowed to borrow and are doing so because of interest rates being so low.When you borrow you have to pay back as you are aware off and if you don't the debt becomes bigger.As for getting back to normal whatever that is, I am sure it doesn't mean everybody wants to go to pubs, but those able and have jobs do need to go to work.
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What has been posted has been advice to those who don't feel safe to leave their homes that the logical answer is to stay indoors and this is a course of action I and others here are not voluntarily going to follow.
Agree AD, I posted something similar many pages ago now, but we have no intention of staying at home for the foreseeable, just because we're over a certain age and careful. We've gone out for walks or bikerides just about every day since lockdown in March; we've been away to a few CLs and are planning to go again soon. We take precautions when outside, don't go to where there could be lots of people and although it's not how it used to be, it's infinitely better than staying at home and not venturing out at all.
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Scared is an emotive word, DT, I think exercising due caution is a more appropriate term and, if I knew the answer to your question, I’d be doing something more worthwhile than posting here.
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I think very few are scared of the virus ,but many are worried that because of the attitude of the "i am going to carry on as normal"which as seen as now about a third the country has been restricted, as to the residents in those areas it should be a wakeup call to fhose mentioned earlier
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I don't see it as being scared at all. There is a danger that people need to be aware of but that is not the same as being scared.
I'm not scared but aware of what could happen (just like driving).
I won't do anything to increase the danger to myself and others.
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Call scared what you like but the way I see it is that lots of people are running scared of the virus. Is it really that bad? Ok I know people have died from it, lots have tested positive and not known they had it. Lots more get it and live. People die from other things. Before we got a vaccine for flue between 20,000 and 50,000 people a year died from it. Did we have a lockdown then?
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We could easily stay " Scared of this Virus " for as long as we have been scared of Influenza, polio etc etc ~~ indeed I was Checked and Jabbed against Flu 2020 only yesterday.
But being scared is not the same as being Paralysed with fear & stopped from functioning is it ?? If the hoped for successful research results in an effective remedy we could be just the same in future years as we have been for many years now. ~~ taking sensible precautions and hoping that research can come up with this years injection !!
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Yes, I consider 42k+ deaths in 6/7 months to be sufficiently bad as to warrant taking the recommended precautions. Surely, it's plain to see.🤷♂️
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well what would you suggest DT? just abandon all these ideas, go back to a full normal?
And really how you can discount so easily the number of people who have died from it, or will die from it quite amazing.
And, yes it is that bad. I really hope it is not someone you care about who is affected before you realise that.
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A full plus one.
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What two advisors? Just two is it?
Again they (WHO ever -see what I did there?)) are presenting the dangers. You personally could discount them, but unfortunately your actions will, may, affect others. Not people you know - yet.
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