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There is little logic in much of the restrictions to be honest. Compounded by the devolved Governments only having so much they can do. I’ve on the whole been impressed by more of what the Welsh and Scottish Govts have done, it doesn’t happen for England because everything is controlled from London, and they are just too far removed from some places, more should be happening via local government, but that to London is a frightening concept, not to mention that the powers and budgets at local level are seriously eroded.
However, no matter where you live, it’s all about people spreading this virus, and that primarily occurs when folks who shouldn’t get together, and in larger groups. Throw in alcohol and it’s a recipe for disaster.
Dont think that folks aren’t still holidaying overseas either. I spoke to a plumber yesterday, couldn’t help at the moment as he was in Turkey!
OH and I were chatting yesterday. General conclusion was that most of the last seven months have been utterly shambolic, confusing, and at times heartrending, watching in disbelief some of the decision making and leadership on the one hand, and the idiocy and lack of control on the other. What’s really galling is that most of it was predictable.☹️
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Ttda, we've had virtually the same conversation in this household.
What a crying shame that Common Sense seems to have gone AWOL for an awful lot of folk. Yet I see plenty of our neighbours trying their best to adhere to ever changing guidelines. Just a few minutes ago I had to correct MiL on a fact. She had gone back to thinking we were restricted to 5 miles from home as opposed to the county and could actually leave that if for medical reasons. It's no wonder people are confused.
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We are used to surviving amongst the thick and uncaring sadly where we live, and I include some of our local council in that damning statement. Our local neighbours are like us, careful and thoughtful, we look out for each other. Mum has the same, but once out in the wider community it’s a spectator sport watching what’s going on. Numpties and knuckledraggers proliferate.
We choose our visits to local shops, other places based on time of day and the demographic likely to be out and about, location and how good they are in terms of making sure precautions are met. We haven’t used our town centre for anything beyond a haircut for years, so that’s no loss at all.
Not in an area of enhanced precautions, but cases locally are rising. I don’t know anyone locally that has had Covid to be honest, at least not to their knowledge. Family and friends to date all safe🤞
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We have just come back from a trip into town ,which coincided with the local agricultural/ tech/ media college was turning out for their "lunch" and it was very noticable how few of the students? bothered with face masks/coverings in the shops or shopping centre,
But then it does not affect them
ps Only John Lewis had staff on the (now only entrance) asking people to wear a face covering and not letting anyone in until they had hand sanitised at the station
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I have a very low opinion of some in my local area AD, including local councillors and officers. I worked in a very community based environment initially, then in the wider area. The last twenty years or so have seen a vast amount of our town change from what it was, to where it is now, and it hasn’t in the main been change for the good. I was party to the meetings and decisions taken as a local government officer, so first hand knowledge of what was happening. Very bad decision making, local funding spent mainly on a small minority who have complex needs, a council that had to be taken into special measures, a police force at the centre of a number of very big investigations, no go areas that have their own dedicated policing team, failing schools, high unemployment at times, teenage pregnancies above the average, and the soul ripped out of a very nice town centre by out of town retail parks, and anti car-high car park charging policy. It’s a roller coaster ride I wouldn’t have chosen.
Why am I still here? Simply because I could not convince my parents to move, and didn’t want to spend my latter years commuting up and down to care for them. The town and surrounding area is very nice, particularly where we live, choose your location wisely and you can have a huge house, big garden for prices others elsewhere can only dream about. But we shop and enjoy our lives in the main away from most of the local population. Our time will come, we shall hopefully live a different life elsewhere, no doubt with different issues. (On the plus side, access to health care and hospitals is superb)
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I went into a Morrisons supermarket during our present travels, normally I wouldn't notice who is doing what to whom..or the demographics of local society. I don't think the virus knows any social boundaries? But I did notice people being forgetful and getting too close, probably me too in trying to get in and out of the shop as quickly as possible. At the check out the couple behind me were asked politely to move back. So that is what is going on everywhere, most, I'm sure trying to be responsible. I don't go into supermarkets at home at the moment so my NE experience was unerving due to their increased local outbreak not the locals themselves, the majority are trying to cope with a very difficult situation.
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No, it’s not Sheffield. Much smaller. There were two routes into trying to make people’s lives a bit better, as you say one via local politics, but another by becoming a local government officer. The town’s politics weren’t really my politics, so I did the Local Government Officer route. You get to advise on strategy and policy, and advise the local councillors into doing what is the best thing for the local population, can ensure that any “pipe dreams” and vanity projects are reined in and made more viable, and can ensure that councillors are kept abreast of what is required to keep things ticking along fairly and for the majority of the local population. Structure of local government changed hugely in late 90’s, and you then got a few people wielding immense power and following their own agendas. Our town had some bad examples, both politicians and officers, it was a time to get out. It’s not easy at times watching from the sidelines, but I did my bit, got some good memories. It’s just not a place we want to grow old in now. The heart and soul isn’t there any more.
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And it gets dafter. If you live in the hotspots of Liverpool and Manchester you can go up Snowdon this week end, mingle, no masks no segregation and spread the disease. However if you live in Capel Curig, just a mile or so away you cant- Local restrictions apply. The rate in the hotspots is 250 per 100,000 in Capel Curig its 14.
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The problems you get with this scenario Fish is that is totally stupid and illogical. The politicians are merely stoking local anger. One of our neighbours here in Flintshire does his shopping in Ruthin, Denbighshire. After today he can't go but someone from Chester can.
Plus it disproves the notion that we are "all in this together". Mind you Cummings blew a big hole in that message.
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"Plus it disproves the notion that we are "all in this together". Mind you Cummings blew a big hole in that message."
And it gets worse .....
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Yes it seems to be You must not spread it locally but you can export it anywhere in the UK. You couldnt make it up. But then the rules dont seem to apply to Boris senior or Corbyn. If they cant get it right knowing the media scrutiny what hope for anyone else.
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And just to make things even worse for our Welsh neighbours:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54371859😱
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I think on a personal level that all these rediculas as has already been demonstrated with the previous lockdown as they were lifted infection went. So all the reductions do is delay the inevitable spread until it self plateaus naturally.
Don
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Words fail me 🤐🤐🤐
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Wherenext I don't think you're alone in the way you feel. I'm trying so very hard not to get worked up about the entire situation. It works from time to time, never lasts long as these sort of things come up and it's impossible to kid yourself 🤬😡 .
I really feel sad, that's putting it mildly, that we'll be confined to barracks with very limited - if any, physical human contact for months on end. AGAIN. The only positive I can find is that my dear mum went before this, she found it hard enough to live alone, and really she had more in the way of face to face and telephone contact that most of us can only dream of now.
I'm still trying to compute - you cannot meet other households indoors or outdoors but you can go to the pub/restaurant/shops. Surely you're interacting with other humans doing that? But you can't do it with folk you know and can trust to have been abiding by the guidelines 🤔 confused of Essex.
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Since the Glasgow area of Scotland had restrictions placed on it our local golf courses have seen a marked rise in out of towners coming for a days golf. Why as far as I am aware they have not been stopped from playing golf in Glasgow have they Kj.
I feel for the people of Wales as we in Scotland are also seeing lots of folk coming up here from lockdown areas in England. The 'wee one' is still muttering on about a circuit break over half term, she needs to put her own house (msp) in order first.
Covid madness will be with us for a lot longer sadly.
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Not as far as I know TG, but I am not into golf at all.
As most of you, we are really fed up with all those who have not/are not complying with the rules, which bit of the danger to themselves and others do they not understand!??
Time that the rules were really enforced, as they did in Italy and some other countries.
Far too many people think it does not apply to them/they can do as they please, be they MPs or the general public.
Really starting to resent that some think they can do as they please and endanger the elderly and the vulnerable.
Starting to feel like we who are more at risk are going to be expected to "hide away" while the rest of the populous get on with life.
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Words fail me 🤐🤐🤐
I know where you are coming from but i dont see why !!!!
irresponsible actions are all around us not just by them that should know better, BJ's dad got slated today for daring to go into the newsagents without a mask. I see this every day in my local newsagents , I dont challenge these people because some may have legit reasons for not wearing a mask, but i do wonder.
I nearly got a kicking today for daring to suggest to some guy that he might like to pick up his dogs poo.
University students think that is their god given right to have freshers week, come what may, with total disregard to any deterimental affects this may have on the neighbouring region.
The list goes on........
These sorts of people do not get into the headlines because they are not "famous ", until everybody takes responsibility for their own actions covid and whatever comes along next will be with us for a long long time.
Best get used to the idea that somebody somewhere will flaunt the rules today , tomorrow or sometime soon
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But won't people who flout the rules or are ambivalent about them decide that if the powers that be who make the rules can't be bothered to adhere to them then why should they?
So I think it is vitally important that those in the limelight and especially our governing members of parliament first of all know the rules and secondly follow them to the letter.
These people send out messages that are illogical and confusing to some. This is plain incompetence but the rest is stupidity.
Yes there are always some people who think rules are for everyone else but you can't be the ones making and breaking them. Bit hypocritical that.
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My parents used to call it setting a good example. How many times? As the eldest........ 😱😂😇
It's like the highly overpaid over indulged footballers and some cricketers and fast car drivers etc etc. Looked up to as idols by some youngsters and seen drink driving, spitting, fighting, etc etc. How do you tell the youngster it's not good behaviour?
Setting a good example applies to all folk and more so to those that choose to 'lead' in politics, jobs, religious leaders etc etc. Sometimes we all fail, but...............
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Old habits die hard.
and expect a second wave as autumn and cooler weather arrived
