Coronavirus Discussion
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2 metres in any direction at any given time plus a few other things like access to NHS emergency & acute services, availability of supermarket delivery slots for the vulnerable....I could go on.
Cornwall is a place of extremes, rich & poor. The same old argument about how Cornwall should be grateful for the tourist £ is one dimensional. Never mind if a few hundred people die of CV, as long as the mobile home owners can keep eating their fish & chips!
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Please take a careful look round the No10 Rose Garden , you'll find sticks of all shapes and sizes, some with evil looking thorns ~~ and all available for BoJo to produce & wave around at any time he likes -- it only takes his staff a few moments and BINGO !!
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I do hope you get a more considered welcome from the locals in the Cotswolds and those other areas you're touring shortly!
Ah well, I won't feel guilty about not having spent many of my tourist pounds in Cornwall so far this year then.
But I will enjoy eating my fish & chips, socially distanced from any of the locals, in my static next week.
That'll fit the bill nicely (though slightly away from the seaside!)
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I haven’t got the exact numbers to hand, but you’d be surprised how quickly attitudes hardened towards anybody posing a threat to the well-being of local residents during lockdown. Despite being utterly dependent on wealthy folks like yourself, any transgressions like people spotted using 2nd homes, holiday accommodation or motorhomes etc were quickly reported via social media or directly to the Council or Police. It worked, for the most part people kept away and infection rates were relatively low. That attitude hasn’t gone away, many dread the upcoming influx of visitors and potential risk of a local spike. Time will tell.
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Goodness, things are becoming a tad unpleasant here.
I live in a lovely seaside town much visited from Easter to October. I recognise the cafes and shops need the business from tourists to survive. On the other hand, I get frustrated at the the chaos, litter, noise which the visitors bring too. When I travel I realise the irony of my actions - escaping the crowds of my own town to seek peace and quiet in someone else’s and thus add to their frustrations.
Now of course we have the added problem of Coronavirus and the potential to carry and spread it around but at the same time I am desperate to get back to my favourite CL.
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Any unpleasantness can be laid at the door of one person who has demonstrated it many times in recent months/years, Firth.
I know where you’re coming from with your other points and it does indeed put a different light on the way we consider our own actions when away.
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Hold onto those horses........could be more local lockdowns on the way!
It’s all as clear as mud at the moment.
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This is interesting and from the BBC website:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-53194905
'It's going to boom'
"I have never known anything like it in 20 years of running the site," says Tony Coker, who runs Tollgate Farm, near Perranporth, with his brother, Kevin."We have got barely any space left between now and the end of August. But we have had a long time - four months - without anything."
The site has about 100 caravan and tent pitches and will be operating at full capacity from Saturday. Since the announcement about lockdown easing, the brothers, who don't have any employees, say demand has "gone absolutely crazy", with 60 emails a day, as well as phone calls
The brothers have implemented a number of safety precautions to allow people to maintain social distancing. Shower and toilet blocks will be open and deep-cleaned twice every day; only alternate sinks and urinals will be in operation and people will be encouraged to use their own facilities such as "toilet tents" if they have them
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Thanks, C. It looks as if there'll be quite an influx there. I wonder if the nearby Haven is fully booked 😂😂
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That's the sort of news we've been getting every day in the SW Corners. Plus there'll be people turning up on the off chance. How it's all going to work is the big unknown with pubs and restaurants etc attempting to open at the same time, different ways of serving people, bookings for meals, queues, distancing...good weather for the next couple of weeks too.
The weekend will reveal more no doubt.
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Anybody operating with communal shower and toilet facilities is taking unnecessary risks. When people take a pee, flush away the poo or clean their teeth, microscopic amounts of infected material can enter the atmosphere and combine with water droplets in the air resulting from showering, all at a nice virus sustaining temperature. They can deep clean the toilets and showers as often as they like, the risk won’t go away unless people stop breathing.
I rest my case.
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Hmm, I reckon this weekend will be 'fun' on the M5. 😨
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Yes indeed, I'm glad I'm watching it rather than in it.
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Time we had a tourist tax for visitors to Cornwall - I pay £2676 a year in Council tax plus extra for water, sewage disposal and beach cleaning. Visitors get it all free.
The sort of visitors we get who stay on Caravan sites run by national chains, do their shopping at Lidl and Aldi, and do their own catering don't contribute much to the local economy at all
If they bring Coronavirus with them as well I shall not be well pleased.
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Research shows that the B& B , Holiday homes and Static van users spend more and its retained in the local economy that touring vaners. Its part of the reason Planning is moving towards allowing more statics on sites to the detriment of tourist pitches. Add in the towing. Motor Home changes forced by Electrification and the demand will switch that way, hence the forward planning.
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I wouldn’t disagree with that.
I sense a complacency about CV creeping in - opening up high risk situations unnecessary add to the danger for all of us. As a male of a certain age the odds are stacked against me from the outset. 50% of all victims intubated will not survive and many of the ‘lucky’ ones who survive will suffer life changing, permanent disability. If I catch it I won’t be very pleased either! I felt much safer last week than I do now.
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Research shows that the B& B , Holiday homes and Static van users spend more
Of course they do ..... there is more infrastructure to pay for than a patch of stone, EHU and toilets. Depends how one measures spending.
At Easter, but for lock down, I would have spent £800 renting a 4 bed house in Southport for me, my youngest and her two children. On the caravan site I would have spent £250 due to less infrastructure to pay for. I would have spent the same in either accommodation on food, drinks, entertainment etc
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Apart from bringing in a lot of employment for people down there? What about that? Who then pay income tax so a tourist tax already?
Bring in a tourist tax and you'll find that people will go elsewhere, what will happen to all those job? Additionally: while internal overnight trips to the area from other areas of the UK brought £1.15 billion, internal day visits brought £745 million, want to lose all that?
Also those tourists pay VAT, unless Cornwall a VAT free zone, so is your tourist tax already there?
And how you know that those using national chains of sites only shop at Aldi and Lidl I have no idea? But even if they did, do they account for 100%, 90%,... of caravan site users? I mean CAMC only has 10% of sites nationally
And these visitors who use national chains, don't buy anything while they are down there? no pubs, coffees, ice creams, tourist attractions, shops, fuel, parking fees.
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and what research is that Fish? perhaps you could post some sources?
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I would disagree, Temp. Yes, we pay through the nose by way of utilities and Council Tax for the pleasure of living here but whose choice is it to live here? Ironic, isn’t it that someone who moved to the county for all it has to offer should want to penalise those who wish to visit and help support our economy.
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Temp screen name said 'I sense a complacency about CV creeping in - opening up high risk situations unnecessary add to the danger for all of us. '
It is not unnecessary to start to open things up. Whether we like it or not it is essential to the general economy. You and I probably have a reasonable pension, maybe some savings. Were our pension income (including state pensions) to stop then, until hyper inflation eventually took over and without paying for holidays, OH and I could probably survive for 20 years on our savings. Many are not in that situation and the government cannot payroll the economy to the present extent indefinitely.
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Have a look at
So it's about time that we as tourers should withdraw our spending into local communities and do what? Go abroad and spend it there? There are some very short sighted people on here.
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"And these visitors who use national chains, don't buy anything while they are down there? no pubs, coffees, ice creams, tourist attractions, shops, fuel, parking fees."
True - as Monty Python might have said (and almost did) "what else have the visitors ever done for us?"
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You're drifting off topic somewhat.
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