Coronavirus Discussion
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The UK's first full local lockdown has been announced in Leicester, with stricter measures imposed in the city.
Non-essential shops will shut on Tuesday, and schools will close for most pupils on Thursday because of a rise in coronavirus cases.
The loosening of restrictions for pubs and restaurants in England on Saturday will also not be taking place.
So it happened over 300k people will be affected, people advised not to move into or out of the area, this could turn into another Spanish fiasco with hundreds escaping to the coast/country and taking the virus with them.
And they thought it was all over
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changed your tune a little Easy, yesterday you were saying it was all media hype. One local council member on the news last night said one of the reasons was because many in the region did not speak english and therefore did not understand the rules, never been to Leicester so not able to comment.
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I honestly can't see it working very well unless some sort of controls on movement in and out of the area are imposed. The recent opening of non essential shops is a bit recent to be showing a rise and pubs etc are yet to open. So just closing schools, plus non essential shops and asking folk to stop traveling is likely to be ineffective.
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I honestly can't see it working very well unless some sort of controls on movement in and out of the area are imposed.
We don't have the detail ..... hopefully somebody in authority does! I cannot see the closing of the city centre non-essential shops making a significant change of itself either Steve. Maybe what it will do is to enforce the message to maintain social distance and observe strict hygiene
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I think isolation in targeted areas is fairer than national lockdown when areas without issues suffer. If the shops are shut there will be a lesser need to travel to a city centre. I think any attempt is better than none & allow the virus to potentially reach the epic proportions of Nth & Sth America☹️
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I have had Indian friends of about my generation who despite being well educated their wife's English was poor. Despite this I doubt that many residents did not get the message one way or another and so I am not convinced that a language barrier was the main reason for the increased rates
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Having in the past worked with numerous diferent nationalities in now what is called "Bame?" community,there were many older family members (in the very large family units under one roof) who did not speak? or understand english?
As even now it is very noticeable when looking at official documents how many languages they are printed in
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And I was suggesting that it was a very minor issue and it was not a direct response to your thoughts but to what the councillor said and gave my own personal thoughts.
I would add that it is not all about you Rufs and my reply was to David's post and not to yours
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I will "try" not to upset the sensitive posters
The very population make up of some cities , and the very large Bame families occupying properties in certain areas of the cities,is another and possible main reason that it is very dificult to contain the spread of any infections ,
Not helping as noted lately with the "street parties" that have been causing problems (and that is only the ones that have made headlines)
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as the post for new checking in procedures has been closed and as i couldnt be bothered to read all the posts, has anything been said as to what happens if you miss your alloted time slot for checking in ? the motoring organisations are expecting some 680,000 drivers planning to visit caravan sites, leading to chaos on the roads and the inevitable delays that will ensue, on Super Saturday.
the possibility of a lot of infected people visiting caravan sites
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Poor housing, overcrowded housing, poverty, multi generational living.
If you look at the statistics from any city, you will find that it’s the areas with these underlying issues that bear the brunt of the numbers. It’s certainly true for Sheffield, Leeds, Manchester, London. Not just ethnic minorities either. Anyone living in substandard housing is prone to other health issues such as malnutrition, substance abuse, COPD, mental health issues. This virus takes no prisoners, and if you start from a poor baseline it hits very hard.
Guardian has a map showing area of Leicester in lockdown. It’s basically the whole inner city, and the Western border is the M1.
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I only quoted what the councilor said so was not putting forward my opinions or knowledge re the situation, that is why originally i said i was not in a position to comment, and at no time did i suggest the lanuguage issue was the main issue as you suggested, however, you seem as usual to be very knowledgeable about this subject so please continue.
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Once again Rufs my reply was not to you in the first place but to David. I never did suggest that you had said it was a major issue and I have no idea where you drew that inference. My reply to David made no mention of you or your thoughts whatsoever.
As I said in my previous response my post in reply to David was about the language situation and its likely affect.
Nowhere did it reference you and as said in my previous post it is not all about you ..... whatever you may think. I hope this helps resolve any misapprehension on your part. If not there is little more that I can do towards that end
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Despite this I doubt that many residents did not get the message one way or another and so I am not convinced that a language barrier was the main reason for the increased rates
your quote, may not have been directly to me, but you took it upon yourself to escalate the language issue from "one of the reasons" to "Main reason" ,
Despite this I doubt that many residents did not get the message one way or another.
so again although not in direct response to me, but what are you saying, that the local councilor on the ground was talking rubbish, and that you know better?.
so you took my quote, put your spin on it, and then try to deny me the right to reply
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This is an image of the lockdown area proposed. I post it for the information of those who might be travelling in the near future, as you can see the Western border is the M1. No news as regards if it will affect the motorway, but anyone thinking of using this stretch, which is normally very busy, needs to check for updates.
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