Coronavirus Discussion
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An outbreak can occur absolutely anywhere, the reaction and testing have to be faster than they are at present. It took time to work out where the outbreak at Weston General had spread from, which turned out to be the staff accommodation, many of the staff also worked in the local community as well as the hospital. Because it was noticed that patients on the non covid wards in the hospital developed the virus testing and results at the hospital were probably more rapid than they have been in the Leicester community. It just shows how easily this virus slips back into the population and testing isn't fast enough.
It's a reminder not a reason to be on guard wherever you are.
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Maybe Rufs was thinking of warden staff dealing with customers, talking on the phone to them, passing packages and trying to handle calls from folk saying that they are running late/early etc. No idea how wide the arrival time slots are or how many might be given the same time slot.
Normally if a member phones to say that he is running late for example the warden would be unlikely to dealing with many arrivals on site at that time
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Fully agree brue. It’s all reactive, rather than pro active, and then the whispers escalate things.
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From what I have read so far, all Leicester’s lockdown seems to consist of is shutting/ not opening none essential shops, pubs, eateries, and schools only taking essential worker/vulnerable children. With a polite request for folks not to drive in and out of area. And of course, no let up for those shielding. All reliant upon the goodwill of residents.
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not that i will be joining the crush, but i was thinking of the sites with only 2 wardens available where the facilities etc are open, wouldnt one warden be tied up with the duties revolving around the new cleaning regime that is supposed to be in force , you may have a better idea than me
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I would have thought it nigh on impossible to block off roads, who is going to police this, they did a pretty good job in Italy but failed miserably in Spain.
From what is being said in the press, the powers that be are asking people not to travel into the area or leave the area, but we know what happens when people are asked to be sensible and take precautions, it sinks into a "lets all take hippy crack" scenario and have a good time, "not met anybody with covid-19 gov, so no need for me to take precautions"
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I thought it was the North of Italy where a regional lockdown was proposed back in early March that proved difficult? Spain appeared to deal with restricting movements very well once lockdown was in place?
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It seems that work continues to track down how long COVID 19 has been with us and that timing seems to be going backwards from November 2019. Reuters are reporting some interesting news from Barcelona where a study has found traces going back to March 2019. Apparently the Barcelona Authorities keep samples of sewage/waste water and some of these samples have been identified as containing traces of corona virus by a study at Barcelona University. To quote “The levels of SARS-CoV-2 were low but were positive,” It seems that they identified traces in January 2020 41 days before the first case was confirmed! Both Spain and Italy are very popular with Chinese visitors so does this suggest that it has been around a lot longer than first thought. The strange thing is why did it take so long to take hold and what was the trigger?
David
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once they got a grip they did suceed, my daughter lives and works in Villa Martin, but in the early stages they tried to lock down Madrid, but failed and as a result lots of the Madridians fled to the coast where lots have holiday apartments taking the virus with them, but yes their lock down compared to ours was quite brutal and effective, but then you dont often argue with a policeman carrying an AK47
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wonder if they will do that in leicester, just heard the question posed
"how will they stop people leaving the city on Saturday to visit pubs etc out in the countryside ", would be equally concerned about them leaving to visit coastal regions for camping holidays, cottages etc, they are setting up lots of mobile testing units within the area but these are only good if people go for the tests and even then they are not fail safe.
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From BBC News
The measures announced by Matt Hancock are the UK's first local lockdown.
Mr Hancock told the House of Commons people in Leicester should stay at home and only travel if essential.
He said the measures would be enforced by police "in some cases"
Not sure what measures the police might be able to enforce. The information so far is that recently opened shops are to close nothing yet beyond a request to generally stay at home
People are being urged to make essential journeys only and stay at home as much as they can.
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A quick peruse of my road atlas identifies 22 ways into the zone. Add the Leicester Forest East services and, unless draconian containment is applied, this will spread in the same way that the "Madrilenos" took it to the Costas.
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It has the potential, most of the "Madrilenos" went to the coast to self contained holiday apartments in large urbanisations because they thought this would be a safe option, but many were already infected and the virus quickly spread throughout the urbanisations.
In the UK they will move out to campsites, rented cottages etc, probably with the same mentality, "it will be safer"
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On another subject, I was hoping to get away for a few days next week. But I have now had to cancel my site booking. The problem is I live near Leicester, which has just reimposed the lockdown after a spike in positive tests. I rang the club, and was advised to cancel. So in the absence of any clear advice on how we might be affected by local lockdowns in our home locations, it seems that we cannot travel or take advantage of the sites that are open. I thought it was worth mentioning it here in case anyone else is in the same situation and wondering what to do. I took a long time to get through to the club on the telephone, they are very busy at the moment, so this might save you a phone call.
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