When the lockdown ends

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  • InaD
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    edited May 2020 #452

    Haven't received any mailings from CAMC  other than the "A message about our financial services products" email 2 days ago.  Neither the one you mentioned, nor the one with a link to a survey.  Wonder how recipients are selected, or is it random?

  • JollyKernow
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    edited May 2020 #453

    Or a wind up?"wink

    JK

  • thebells
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    edited May 2020 #454

    We got the survey email today but nothing about the virtual national.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #455

    Or we've not had the mail because we've opted out 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Tammygirl
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    edited May 2020 #456

    We've not had a thing from this club, had one yesterday from the other club. 

    If there is no reduction in price I can't see that being very popular given that the normal price is OTT.

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  • huskydog
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    edited May 2020 #458

    There’s not a lot of point in filling out the survey,as they don’t take any notice of the members views , they just do their own thing surprised

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #459

    I was advised some years ago that taking Vitamin D at my age with the normally lower sunshine levels especially winter months,was the best of all supplements for our age groups

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  • Longtimecaravanner
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    edited May 2020 #461

    It wasn't the fact that he made the journey that bothered me, but that he put his older parents at risk by asking them to look after his son when he might have been carrying the virus.

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #462

    Personally I have no problem with anybody choosing to isolate in such a way if they maintain isolation. If I was in a similar position I might well do the same. 

    Few outlets seem to publish news beyond Corvid19 politics. 

    https://news.sky.com/story/wild-white-stork-chicks-hatch-in-uk-for-first-time-in-hundreds-of-years-11993114

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2020 #463

    I don't either ET. His parents may even have suggested it for all I know. However, given his position he will have to accept that the consequences go much further than a talking to by the police.

  • allanandjean
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    edited May 2020 #464

    It is clearly a misunderstanding on our part! 

    He has done a piece for the Spectator about being in lockdown where he talks about doing things with his son, you know the one that he needed his parents to look after, you know, the ones that shouldn't be doing that, after, you know, he drove from London to Durham which he shouldn't have done but he made this right by returning to london in April.

    Goodness we are all so easily confused and suspicious are we not?

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/spectator-writers-in-lockdown-by-the-people-stuck-with-them

     

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  • allanandjean
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    edited May 2020 #466

    Hi, If, and as said above its all rather confusing, he thinks he had symptoms why would he then risk passing the virus to his parents? 

    They may have suggested it, so what?

    Don't get me wrong, one of the changes we have made is to turn off the non stop drivel about the 'hordes' of people bringing catastrophe to a place near you, as it seems many are quick to criticise without thinking but , and as with the 'if' , its a big but, the circumstances are at all accurate this appears to be a man who,whatever the reasons, mitigation etc , has chosen to risk travel to be with others whilst having symptoms.

     

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #467

    Hi, If, and as said above its all rather confusing, he thinks he had symptoms why would he then risk passing the virus to his parents? 

    There is nothing that I have read to suggest that he did risk passing on the virus. I have read a statement that he lived in a separate building. I know of several self isolating in caravans etc on parents driveways and maintaining social distancing and I would suggest that in such cases it is far easier to safely isolate in such a way with somebody at hand to to provide back up for provisions etc.  

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2020 #468

    As I put his position is untenable. However, ''tis easy to judge. We have a young granddaughter. They only live a few miles away and we just meet by Face Time. If her parents both became ill and unable to look after her properly, what would we do? 

    Fortunately it is not a descision we have had to make.

  • young thomas
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    edited May 2020 #469

    ...or their parent have to go back to work....

  • allanandjean
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    Hi easy, he says in his piece in the Spectator that he was ill at the end of March and for the first two weeks of April.

    I too can easily see circumstances where I might act in a way that may be viewed as not complying but don't think that, if all the circumstances reported, be it unverified, from the local Police in Durham , or from Cummings himself, are correct that I would have done what he did at that time.

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2020 #471

    +1, these people set the rules or advise what rules to set. They should be the best of the best, when proved to be self serving selfish types they need to be sacked to give the message to the rest of us it is not acceptable. Why would anyone who is capable of passing on the live Covid-19 virus want to be within talking distance of others let alone family. I think ‘isolation’ is the giveaway here😤

  • young thomas
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    edited May 2020 #472

    "Don't get me wrong, one of the changes we have made is to turn off the non stop drivel about the 'hordes' of people bringing catastrophe to a place near you, as it seems many are quick to criticise without thinking....."

    certainly agree with this...

    i try and find something positive to think about, something that indicates we are moving forward...

    im afraid there are some who would rather dwell on the misdemeanours of others and how every decision is taking us in the wrong direction.

    i just keep myself to myself, steer clear of others where possible, and tick off another day nearer a return to something more normal.

    i certainly wont succumb to gloom in the meantime. 

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2020 #473

    As I understand it, from one of those question and answer sessions at the daily briefing. Lack of childcare was a reason for refusing and you could still claim the 80%.

  • allanandjean
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    edited May 2020 #474

    Hi steve, I am only 'judging' this as Cummings has written a public piece that appears to contradict the reasons that have been given , that he 'needed help with childcare'.

    It all seems rather odd given that we are told how 'switched on' he is and who knows maybe, as I said earlier, its us that have just got confused.

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #475

    His wife also gave a BBC Radio interview about their joint illness "at home" I assumed they had help for their son in London. No hint they'd had help. elsewhere.  I'm not interested in them but at the time felt human sympathy. However it wasn't as it seemed. frown

  • allanandjean
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    edited May 2020 #476

    Hi steve, there are multiple reasons why people may have problems returning to work however, for me, there is no value in comparing the issues that, say, a single parent, with key worker status may have with Cummings apparent needs. 

  • young thomas
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    edited May 2020 #478

    even for teachers?...with the Govt determined to move onward with openings..?undecided

    there will need to be some rule bending (relaxing) somewhere to make this happen...

    in theory, someone could babysit a (older) child outdoors if maintaining social distancing**...in Ireland you can now meet with 6 others not from the household...obviously, scope is gradually broadening...

    ** and its not raining....undecided

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #479

    As with most,  it seems these days, the information that is given in any interview ,is what they want people to hear not the way it was actualy carried out undecided

    "The notes are all there ,but not necessarily in the right order" Eric to Andra Previncool

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2020 #480

    The question specifically mentioned teachers and the answer was yes.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #481

    I see the wagons are circling! frown

    Statement from the Chancellor - "looking after your wife and child isn't wrong, trying to make a political point out of it is" (or words to that effect). 

    So it's all of us who have tried to do as we were told  (by Cummings' boss) that are in the wrong then! yell

    We will see now just how far integrity exists in this government.