When the lockdown ends
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l am not one of those that travel abroad but l am afraid on the continent their will be resentment to none EC travellers which we will be one of, l really think that their will be no foreign travel until next spring, so hopefully more will be spent here
Hi heethers, not sure why you think there will be resentment' or what you think that will actually look like?
So far as spending goes we will be just as likely to spend here as we would abroad but the things that we spend on, other than food shopping, are all a no no at the moment and we have no idea when that is likely to change.
We have been discussing what we think would be the safer options so far as holidays are concerned and cannot see any obvious differences between being on a foreign campsite than being here.
Ironically there was a lot of coverage re the issue on cruise ships which are the places we have seen the highest visible prevention actions being taken.
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only to you
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glad to see them making such good progress, so quickly....you must be relieved.
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Can't tell you how much! However still concerns! Their lockdown was level 4, they've moved down to level 3, or as they were told 3.9 😉. They're watching and waiting to see how it goes, then it'll be level 2.
Son in law back to work, they got some sort of pay, but had to use holiday as well whilst not working!
At present the schools don't want pupils in, learning is online and set by child's teacher, because of distancing and cleaning. They are hoping supply teachers will be in school for the pupils whi need to be in school, for a bit.
Their government acted swiftly and consistently, they have a moat! 🤐. Fingers crossed things will continue as they have been. They hope the country will pick up home grown tourists when the time comesrather than inviting them into the country. Of course they are going into winter soon, so hopefully places that rely in tourists will be able to start trading again with home grown tourists.
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Maybe its me being a brexiteer looking for the negatives, couple of weeks ago Spain was saying it would welcome tourists back after its lock down but no one from the UK. Spain forgets that early seventies it was the british that kick started spanish tourism and to this day l would bet we are the biggest countries citizens that holiday their, l bet you if you asked the question their would be hostilities to us due to Brexit using Covid 19 has an excuse, its my opinion, others may disagree. l will stay touring in the UK and spend my money in areas that will be glad of it the club will be glad of it after this is all over, those that choose to travel abroad it's your decision.
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H, neither Brexit nor Covid has changed my opinion that Spain is a magnificent country to visit and explore, and its people people are truly wonderful....warm, friendly and appreciative of those that visit and treat them with mutual respect....so, not much different to other places
it may be a long wait but i am (and will always) look forward to returning.
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Mr Macron is on record as saying as soon as France lifts the lockdown Europe & UK are welcome👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Spread your wings, sir. Go see the world .
Spain may not be your cup of tea but there are more than seven wonders around the world. Enjoy them while you can.
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Must be me but I don't get it. Sadly 28,000 people have already died in the UK from this virus and that isn't the end. IF anyone is allowed to use their van, it won't be until at least July, probably even later. So let's say, if we take holidays until Oct, that's 3 or 4 months. We've already lost that amount of time this year. So if I have to lose another 4 months of holidays to possibly save my life, my family from suffering the virus and to not transmit it from one area to another then so be it. I would love to get away but just because the government says I can doesn't mean to say that I will go. Even if away there will be very few places open to visit. It's a shame people can't holiday but my goodness there are much worse things in life.
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That's interesting when you think about the climate, going into winter. We're just about to go into summer when everyone wants to go out and visit everywhere in their thousands. I looked up tourist numbers from abroad and in 2017 we had 39.2 million visitors (NZ has around 3 million.) We're up against huge logistical problems to prevent further outbreaks etc. and we're running into our main holiday season.
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Country is still climbing daily in terms of cases and deaths as well. Taking USA out of equation, we are approaching Italian case and death rates, and now showing three times the new case rate and twice the death rate of Italy and Spain. UK has a very long way to go yet.
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That is true just looking at the raw figures. However, this graph looks at daily deaths per million using a 7 day rolling average. This shows the curve is not that much different to Italy. True it's not currently come down as low but our rise up started later, so that is to be expected.
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l am sorry but has soon has the lockdown is lifted with restrictions, l will go an see my grandson which l haven't seen since Christmas, and if the club opens the sites l will travel to a site close to him. l am sorry that others feel different, After fighting prostate cancer for the last 2 years time is precious to me, l will take the chance, besides the wife and l are sure we had the virus in January and will wait for the test to see if we have had it, has soon has the test comes available. Believe me its very hard to lock ourselves down when you know every day is precious to you and not see your loved ones that live a fair way away. Hope this does not upset those that are dead against lifting the lockdown
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its interesting that, as the uk introduced its graphs with a 7-day average to smooth out the curves....Johns Hopkins Univerity (which provides figures for Worldometer) has just introduced a rolling 3-day smoothing for cases and deaths...
i see Italy and Spain recorded lowest death figures for months this past week...still a long way to go but movement in the right direction..
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Sadly 28,000 people have already died in the UK from this virus
This is not true majority of those died with the virus not from the virus, most had underlying conditions that unfortunately the virus hastened their demise. We will only know the true figures after all the analysis has been done at the end to see how many were actually killed by the virus itself. It is a bit like someone with cancer, they may die of some organ failure or similar but the death certificate will say cancer.
As for holidays I think maybe sometime in June we get some restrictions lifted then a little more as we hit July when the kids are on holidays, not sure about travel over there yet but likely to be later in the year before we are welcomed with open arms if at all and as for Cornwall and Wales they have made it perfectly clear they don't want us so best stay away
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There's no need for any apologies Heethers. Once the restrictions on non essential travel are eased and sites are allowed to open, its up to each individual to make their own decision whether or not to travel and use the sites. Some will and some won't, and each group will be free to make their own chose and should not criticise each other, (unfortunatly i'm sure some will).
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But it isn't just deaths. A friend of mine, a nurse, not in ICU, in her forties, fit and healthy. She contracted this. 6 weeks later, still very poorly, fatigued, can barely get out of bed, let alone work. It's a horrible illness. Even if fortunate enough not to die from it. I won't be risking it for a holiday.
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I'm not entirely convinced they are falling at all.
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I am happy they are falling but sad that it is at such a low rate.
What I think unnecessarily confusing is the way the figures are released, as though they are a daily figure. When in fact they are figures for registrations. The only realistic figure is that orange rolling average line they are now showing on the daily graph. Which is comming down much, much slower than it went up.
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I said Go and see the world, not the EU.
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the 'new cases' figure is bound to see an increase as testing is rolled out.
previously, we only knew of cases when someone went to hospital or (sadly) died somewhere else...
now we are 'out there' looking for cases or looking for 'no virus' to allow some back to work or to ensure safety in specific environments.
however, its inevitible that a number of 'extra' cases will be discovered.
..but, as has been said before, Spain, France, Italy were viewed as basket cases while we were in the early stages....yes, we have now surpassed them in total numbers but, even these 'hopeless' situations are being brought under control with cases now a third of the peak and deaths at a quarter or less...
hopefully, we will soon start to see the change these places have seen.
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considering that the uk deaths figure now includes all locations its pretty clear from the Worldometer/Johns Hopkins figures that the deaths per day number is falling.
below is the three-day rolling average they are now using.
i agree, its not so clear for number of cases but, as above, more testing is certainly skewing that as an ongoing guide..
what is different about the UK is that they dont seem to publish any recovered v death figures for all those who go into hospital.
every other country on Worldometer gives this as in the Spain photo below...
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