Coronavirus: Stay or go
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Hi JK, info I heard to yesterday said you can work and thus is in the Money Saving Expert website;
Check whether you can work elsewhere while on furlough.
There's nothing in the furlough rules which stops you from taking a job elsewhere if you're placed on furlough by an employer (doing so wouldn't affect your furlough pay either). But your employment contract may not allow it, so check.
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Following on from JK's post I really don't think you can underestimate the stupidity of a not insignificant portion of the population.
It must be amazing to have their immune system as these people obviously believe it's not something which could possibly happen to them.
The mind boggles.
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Not so sure about tht JV, when loading out shopping onto the self service belt in Asda's yesterday, a young man squeezed between us and exited the store. I had my back to him and felt him brush past me, I thought it was OH at first
I wasn't quick enough to give the young man a few choice words.
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TG,
Playing Devil's Advocate, was the 'squeezing past' just a reflex action that he [and you, and I and everyone else] has done n number of times on autopilot?
You, on the other hand, [like us] were standing in the queue, on high alert to minimise the chance of infection and cannot believe his stupidity and recklessness [like we would!].
There was a good article in yesterday's Guardian by a microbiologist/virologist that outlined the factors, risks, suggested precautions and social protocols. She concluded with the question 'How much do you enjoy being the World's Policeman?' and went on to say that the courier who crosses your path, 'right in front of you' is, in reality much further away than you believe; and that the courier may well be delivering your neighbour's online shopping; and that the courier will have no sick pay or other benefits, so will have taken every sensible precaution to avoid contact with you, because ;[s]he won't want your possible infection!
I know that example is not what happened to you, but after reading those thoughts, it certainly gave me food for thought!
Having said all that, Elaine and I have looked at the figures for Scotland and decided that the sheer numbers, rather than the percentages, increase the risk of 'copping it', and with the forecast infection peak over Easter, combined with the articles showing that Ventilator production will not hit the peak of 15,000 per week, discretion is the better part of valour, So, with the exception of a frenzied dash to the village Coop for a couple of essentials, the barricades will come down Chez March and we'll venture no further than the back garden.
Elaine says I'm often like a bear with a sore head, so I'll hibernate like one until the online shopping arrives in 11 days' time. Oh, the sense of anticipation; and the outcome of disappointment
Steve
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It seems there is a degree of acting on "autopilot" rather than remembering about keeping one's distance.
This includes people not keeping back from the person in front in a queue and people rushing in to secure an item off the shelf before the previous person has moved on sufficiently.
DD was recounting that, when in M&S this afternoon, she had to ask a member of staff where to find an item. She approached to a 2 metre distance and posed her question, and the first thing the young man did was to start walking towards her. She jumped back and he quickly realised his mistake!
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I agree WN. I really can't understand people who will just go and do what they want. Why for goodness sake?
I saw a report on the French police today, who apparently are on high alert at motorway toll areas and service stations, train stations and airports, as this is traditionally the start of the Easter break. Paris has a very high rate of Covid-19, hospitals are at breaking point and they suspect a lot of Parisians will travel to the provinces to get away for the Easter break.
One police officer said that this is serious, and not a video-game. He said that some people who ignored advice to stay at home may now be amongst those who got the virus and have now died.
There must be a lot of truth in that.
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Much can be judged from the number plate
Like what? I live where the bus in my avatar is going but got 2 cars from Deeside/Shrewsbury, 1 from Birmingham and another from Yorkshire. Used cars get ferried around the country and people travel for them.
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So you can imagine how I feel in Cornwall in my Lancashire reg MH 🙁😨
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My sister lives in a pleasant suburb of East Manchester.
There has been, for years, an Easter Fair in nearby Daisy Nook.
Obviously this is not going ahead at the moment, but it seems, the burger vans etc. associated with the fair have set up in the locally, and people, bored already, are gathering , with cans of beer, enjoying a quite legal takeaway “meal”.😱
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TG,
Playing Devil's Advocate, was the 'squeezing past' just a reflex action that he [and you, and I and everyone else] has done n number of times on autopilot?
You, on the other hand, [like us] were standing in the queue, on high alert to minimise the chance of infection and cannot believe his stupidity and recklessness [like we would!].
It may well have been but the till next to us was empty and there are markers on the floor, to show where one should stand. There are notices all around the shop, even black tape on the isles showing a one way system to avoid being to close to other people.
I had a phone call this afternoon from a friend and former work colleague, she was telling me about another friends son, who is a manger of a large supermarket.
He was called down to the shop floor by staff as there was a person going round the shop with a motorbike helmet on. When approached he claimed he had the virus but needed to do shopping, he was asked to finish what he was doing and leave the shop as he was frightening folk.
The man agreed to do so and the manager left his staff to monitor the situation. A few minutes after he got back to his office, he was again asked to come down to the shop floor as the man was now lifting his visor and tormenting the other shoppers.
My friends son all 6ft 5ins of him grabbed the man by the collar and seat of his pants and escorted him from the store
on his return the shoppers and staff were clapping their hands. It would appear some folk still can't take things seriously.Tonight on our village FB page someone suggested a Zombie parade through the village
the worrying thing is how many others thought this would be a good idea. 1 -
yes Asda, it is a weird system. The arrows go around the shop in a way I think designed to make you go up and down every isle, rather than allow you to go straight to the item you require. Most folk ignoring them as otherwise you'd be in there for ages to pick up a loaf of bread a container of milk. Mind you, you could click up a lot of your daily steps if you did follow the arrows.1
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The frightening thing is that as the rate of infection in the hotspots in the more densely populated areas reduces the rates in the less infected areas will doubtless increase to replace them (IMO) and there is an awfully long road ahead I fear.
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well i think he was very brave to be stood on that podium in the first place. Give the guy some slack he has just returned from having this terrible virus, sorry killer virus, and within a matter of days he is stood on a podium with a viewing audience of millions, obviously trying to keep his act together. Far too many people are quick to pick up on mistakes, and yes many have been made, but this is a brutal learning curve for all of us, and in particular our front line fighters. Clearly some people are now bored at home
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With social media being in such widespread use, a few scattered police checkpoints on the roads out / in of popular areas, plus a few fines levied for those that didn't have a valid reason for being there, would soon put a stop to it. Unfortunately we are still overly concerned with our civil liberties. Ironically it could well be the death of us.☹️
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The Chief Constable of Devon & Cornwall has just said on the BBC;
"if a £60 fine stops you doing something that 684 deaths don't you need to look at yourself"
He said they would be looking at the main routes into and around the SW peninsular but he made it clear that there are, and will not be, any 'roadblocks'.
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