Coronavirus: Stay or go

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  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2020 #1472

    Morning

    It's irrespective what county a vehicle reg. came from, it's who it's registered to and where. When I was stopped twice on Thursday I was followed for a good five minutes each time while they did their ANPR check.

    This warm weekend ahead will show what we're like as a race don't you think?

    JK

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2020 #1473

    Unfortunately, I fear, a lot of folk do need to look at themselves and a fine will have more impact than the reported deaths. I think some are so used to these sorts of disasters happening elsewhere in the world, they haven't quite grasped that this time it is our own back yard.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #1474

    It's not the police who concern me, JK, but local people of the 'tourists go home' ilk who don't have access to the DVLA database.

  • Rufs
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    edited April 2020 #1475

    This warm weekend ahead will show what we're like as a race don't you think?

    although i share your sentiments, lets not tar everybody with the same brush.

    We have a population of 60+ million people some of whom live in very difficult situations and for many they, unbelievably dont know what is happening to our world or dont care, and so a day out in Padstow would be their dream day irrespective of all that is going on around them.

    Also i think you will find that there are a lot of areas where this dreaded virus has yet to touch, so they are in some respects oblivious to the dangers.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #1476

    "Also i think you will find that there are a lot of areas where this dreaded virus has yet to touch, so they are in some respects oblivious to the dangers."

    Once those people carry infection back to their untouched areas, they'll find out about it the hard way. 😤

    Ignorance is no excuse in view of the media coverage and it staggers me that some have not grasped the seriousness of the situation. 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #1477

    They probably thought as they do with the arrow direction systems in car parks ,it does not apply to meundecided,as with the present restrictions put in place for every ones hoped for safetyfrown

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2020 #1478

    A simple message!

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2020 #1479

    We are happy with the Welsh Gov regulations.Our fear is the idiots who will break the "Stay at Home"  guidelines. We have already seen second homers turning up from Manchester. They were made very unwelcomed.

  • allanandjean
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    edited April 2020 #1480

    They were made very unwelcomed.

    From a safe distance I presume?!

    I will take a look at the car park during my walk later, as thats a reasonable indication of visitor numbers, but will be ensuring that I maintain distance form one and all.

  • ForestR
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    edited April 2020 #1482

    Unlike you rural dwellers we live very close to a major junction of two motorway. So close one is almost in our back garden.  When we take our once a day walk around our area in the evening all has changed. It is now so quiet we see very few people or cars on the streets even on the main road less than 100 yards from the motorway slip road.

    What a difference a month ago even on a then dark evening the traffic would be queuing to get on and off the motorway. Now virtually no queues.

    We can see the motorway traffic from our upstairs windows and last evening the motorway was quieter than I have ever seen it with traffic reduced by around 90%.

    I should add I have only once seen a caravan or motor home on the motorway in the last week so most people seem to have got the message.

    I will let you know if it changes this weekend or the Easter weekend.

  • Rufs
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    edited April 2020 #1483

    I agree and after reading the first 10 pages of my newspaper this morning, it is incredulous that people are still ignorant when it comes to recognising the dangers of covid-19, welcome to the real world.

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2020 #1484

    Yes.The local garage/shop refused to serve them fuel or goods. The police have been given their details. If they try to travel further to shop they may get stopped.Better still hope they will B...off home.Even worse more of the family may come for Easter. As an aside one of my fields is currently free of livestock. Locals can walk and exercise their dogs there ( picking up .... of course)> they are also told to turn any non locals. away. Just a little to help.

  • DEBSC
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    edited April 2020 #1486

    Devon Police have issued s statement that anyone coming off the M5 is likely to be stopped and questioned and also now on the minor roads into Devon. Not much point in anyone trying to come here, as the beaches that can be closed are. All the beach car parks are all taped off and closed and also all the beauty spot car parks. The police say they will be out in force. My brother, who lives close to a beach, said that yesterday some cars where parked in the road near the beach, a police car was there and the police were speaking to people as they returned to their cars. We have lived in this house for 36 years and I can't remember the last time I saw a police car. We have seen 3 in 3 days. Good on them I say. They certainly won't get any flak from the locals.

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2020 #1487

    Its private land.I decide who can use it End of.But then of course us locals use the SPIRIT of the guidance,dont look for ways to side step.

  • allanandjean
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    edited April 2020 #1488

    I would have thought it would be the people looking to 'side step' the guidance that might claim what they were doing was within the 'spirit' of the guidance rather than to the letter of it?

    I live in a village with a large percentage of second homes. These are usually let for holiday use, when not used by the owners, however, at this time of year it is usually the owners who will be using them.

    I am sure that any that have ventured here will be able, in their own minds at least, be able to justify it.

    I know some owners but presume that if they have decided to ignore the advice and come to the village then anything I might say would be pointless and could quickly deteriorate into a slanging match.

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #1489

    The owners of a holiday cottage near us are staying put in their main residence. However I was very surprised to see another couple appear from London to visit one of their "homes." They appear to have left once more, it's awful to see this mindless disregard for others. Lets hope the message is now sinking in! Petty challenges to these safeguards, some with political bias aren't helping any of us. 

    Stay at home. 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #1490

    I do hope that this field that is now available for "locals" to use,has not been designated as "set aside?" which we would all then be paying towards the grant paid to you?wink

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #1492

    Just asking,wink in the manner it was posted surprised

  • Rufs
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    edited April 2020 #1493

    yes this is pretty much what has happened in our area Lee on the Solent, but most of this work was carried out a couple of weeks ago so hopefully all the regulars who havent been heeding the instructions will have seen the light

  • Fisherman
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    edited April 2020 #1494

    What plonker replies to an act of kindness..Just heard another second Home occupied last night by people from Sutton Coldfield.If this is happening (2) in our small village,then the message in not getting through.Seems there is no hope of stopping the  spread of  the virus. Could of course be similar to some posters here - rules do not apply to them. Sorry for the tone but it is a really serious situation.

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2020 #1497

    On our site 12 of the 15 static vans have full time (11 month) residents and of those 7 have at least one person with ongoing medical conditions. So we think staying at home, frustrating though it is, is a small price to pay to help keeping our friends safer than if we decided to visit. Not to mention the folk we meet regularly walking on the dunes and the beach. Cornwall will still be there for us later in the year and next year and so,  we hope, will be all our many friends down there.  smile

  • marchie1053
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    edited April 2020 #1498

    Just looked back at the 6 Nations Rugby Fixtures. Weekend of 7th March, at which stage Boris Johnson was still boasting about 'shaking hands, even with those he knew to have the virus' England played Wales at Twickenham; and Scotland played France at Murrayfield.

    Allow 14 days for incubation of infection and you reach the weekend before the national lockdown was announced to curb the rapidly spreading infection. The infection rates in both Wales and Scotland were behind those in England, and the concentration of deaths in the Greater London area hadn't emerged at the time of the Rugby matches.

    But the spread of both infections and deaths has risen quite dramatically over the last 7-10 days. The rugby mad Borders has a population of only 115,000 but an infection rate of 8.7 per 10,000 and Lothian NHS  [which covers Edinburgh] an infection rate of 4.54 per 10,000, but with a higher population of 898,000.

    Did Twickenham export a batch of infection to Wales and Murrayfield import one from the French fans? The French lockdown started 17th March, so the incubations may well have started in the first few days of March.

    Steve

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #1499

    It’s keeping you safer as well, M, and those around you at home.

    Yep, it’ll still be here waiting for you 😊

  • ForestR
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    edited April 2020 #1500

    Not long back from food shopping. Shop fully restocked but almost empty with more staff that customers so keeping apart easy. Boots chemists was only none food shop open in town. Even all takeaways closed for duration.

    Have to cross M6  to get to shops and as I said earlier never seen it so quiet. Very few lorries, even less cars and no motorhomes or caravans on motorway unlike any normal Saturday.

    On the question of the rapid increase in number of infections raised by Steve March there would appear to be considerable evidence across Europe that sport and particularly International football, rugby and horse racing ( Cheltenham) has contributed significantly.

  • davetommo
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    edited April 2020 #1501

    How many of these fine do you think will be paid.