Any advice from Club on Coronavirus?

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  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #122

    Not reading half the story and merely pointing out that:

    A. The stringent actions in Italy are relatively recent.

    B. The UK government says we are at a stage of infection 4 weeks behind Italy.

    I am not saying that any country has managed to stop the spread. And obviously any European country will wish to delay the onslaught as long as possible to ease pressure on hospitals. 

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #123

    I think the best advise for every one    ,is coming from those who "hope they are right?" via what has been seen by most via TV and Radio,

    I do know that notices are also deployed on sites as add reminders to all members   , one problem is the company that is contracted to supply cleaning chemicals to sites ,   are having difficulty  filling  orders for sanitizers and certain other cleaners,

    So it would not be OTT to take what you think you need with yousurprised

    Ps   if useing sites with a lot of grass pitches ,  do not be surprised if the pitches on some sites have not yet been cut,      as they are too wet to get the mowers onfrown

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2020 #124

    you are trying to process too much information, in a nutshell we have all be told how to self test e.g. if you have the sniffles, hacking, cough, temperature, self isolate for a minimum of 7 days if conditions persist seek professional help and enforce a strict regime of self hygiene, simple.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #125

    Self testing will not provide meaningful statistics which is the point that I made. If you believe that the testing carried out to date produces meaningful statistical information regarding the rate of spread then I do not. If that is the case then best we agree to disagree

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2020 #127

    In a nutshell 'Ruffs' 👍🏻

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #128

    That is where we differ then as I prefer more info. 

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #129

    Have you not come across what is known as "information overload!?"cool

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #130

    Probably not as I do not tend to read newspaper editorials or listen to government soundbite. The amount of half decent info out there is not sufficient to overload anybody. There is a lot more chaff to winnow away than the corn left in this present scenario. Harvests are poor

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #131

    So where would you get your info from?   as that  "out there"is all from the same sources  ,  but just as all things these days  is "packaged " as the information is upgradedundecided

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #132

    As an aside : 

    But Sir Patrick told BBC Radio 4's Today programme 'it was more likely the virus would be transmitted in a pub than a stadium'.

    Does he not realise that where there is a large sporting event that fans congregate in local pubs either before or after? 

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #133

    From various sources as I outlined earlier. Some are from the government sources before the cabinet tidy up any info for a big announcement in carefully couched terms.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #134

    So what information  do you hope to glean is  different,  from what is available to all undecided

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2020 #135

    It looks as if the football authorities have taken the decision ahead of any government advice. Other sports are sure to follow I'd have thought.

     https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51867989

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #136

    None that is not available to all JVB. The difference is that I do not concentrate on headlines. No need to discuss further if you rely on headlines and carefully put together government statements repeated in all newspapers.

  • chasncath
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    edited March 2020 #137

    I found this youtube explanation of covid19 growth to be quite 'comforting' in explaining the growth and then control of the virus. We must hope that the inflection point comes soon!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #138

    Not in the least interested in a discussion JVB, I merely give my view

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2020 #139

    Like Ruffs I prefer to use my own common sense.  I’m avoiding crowds, using high hygiene standards and trying a Japanese solution by having a couple of sips of water every 15 minutes and washing everything in th3 mouth to the gut where acids should neutralise anything untoward 

  • brue
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    edited March 2020 #140

    When I looked at that I was glad to see the server error pop up as I switched on and off! 

    Just for once the server error is welcome in disrupting lingering thoughts and scenarios. wink

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2020 #141

    I thought yesterday's announcements very proffesionally handled. The PM couldn't have been more direct, "loved ones are going to be lost". I might not have agreed with the scope of the proposals but accept there decisions are science led. Having spent most of my working life providing science / statistics based predictions to my employers, I know you can go from hero to zero very quickly.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #142

    Like most political broadcasts - professional and carefully chosen as to what was referenced concerning actions taken so far. Just what was expected and not a criticism of the broadcast

    Some of the rhetoric a bit like Trump's in that regard but far more slickly delivered.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2020 #143

    I have not heard of that will will try it too.

    (can you add alcohol?)

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2020 #144

    Isn't alcohol supposed to break down the shell of the virus? Not advisable if driving.😀

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #145

    Alcohol needs to be stronger than normally available UK beverages.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2020 #146

    From the BBC Website

    Professor Trudie Lang at the University of Oxford says there is "no biological mechanism" that would support the idea that you can just wash a respiratory virus down into your stomach and kill it.

    Infections like coronaviruses enter the body via the respiratory tract when you breathe in. Some of them might go into your mouth, but even constantly drinking water isn't going to prevent you from catching the virus.

    Nonetheless, drinking water and staying hydrated is generally good medical advice.

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2020 #147

    there are several recipes out on the web to make your own hand sanitiser using vodka at 75%  and you can buy this laughing

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #148

    You may be right regarding 75% being suitable but I wonder how much has not been bought up laughing

     I know that 95% polish spirit used to be available

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2020 #149

    I wonder if there’s scope for the creation of a sticky thread to inform us of any disruptions to club sites such as closures or restricted occupancy? It would probably need to be for use only by staff/mods to allow it to remain brief and factual.

    Perhaps someone will report my post to Rowena if they think it could be a useful tool.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2020 #150

    Done, TW

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2020 #151

    I've been wondering about the same thing TW. If there's an outbreak at a site you wouldn't want to be going there and would definitely want to be kept informed.