Coronavirus Worries
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Had a visit to Crewe Town centre this morning to pick up a couple of items I had forgotten on earlier shopping trips but car park only three fourths full and the shops I was using were no worse than usual for crowding, shelves mainly well filled especially for whatever I required
- hope you all are having as pleasant a "shop" like wot I 'ave 'ad 
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"hope you all are having as pleasant a "shop" like wot I 'ave 'ad sealed !!"
yes, Brian....some lovely serrano ham, cheese, barra de pan, for lunch.
some pork chops for dinner (later, after the rugby)....
terrific jazz/swing band in the town centre at lunchtime with free bread/ham tapas with each viño, so, after a pleasant two hours in the sunshine we are set to survive another day...phew!
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We've thought about this to, while we are not overly concerned about 'catching' the virus, it could happen anywhere.
Its more about where you are at the time you become unwell.
If you were in a rural area of Spain (thats where we are going) then it could be problematic if you have to go into hospital for any length of time, as it could be miles away from the campsite.
If its the driver, then that would cause issues for the non driver left behind.
If it was both of you then leaving the car and caravan on site could also have its problems.
We are still looking at going, unless advised otherwise, we are just considering what could happen and how we would overcome any issues.
Currently in Lanzarote where there are no cases yet. I don't think that it will stay that way, when you see how many flights land each day.
Our biggest risk at present is the flight home, considering it will have come from Glasgow and only has a turn around time of 1 hour before departing again for Glasgow. The flight will be the risk factor.
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However, Freddie, it's the infection that may be being carried by the flight crew that could be of the biggest concern. Aboard the cruise liner, now drifting somewhere off the coast of California, the vast majority of those that have tested positive for the virus are the crew, at the moment, and they could well be the cause of the infection that the passengers now have.
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Sanchas, I think today's news from Italy will answer your original question
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I was told to be very careful of the wrist wound sites, especially the left wrist where the bleeding wouldn't stop; and then told to 'be careful' and not to drive for 4 weeks.Language difficulties and our proposed immediate move after the 4 weeks prevented anything more from being given.
After that, I was left to my own devices, but fellow caravaners volunteered to help with lifting the bikes back onto the roof rack, and I emptied the toilet cassette more frequently to minimise the weight.
It was just so good to be able to drive again and to be back to being independent after so much well intentioned advice not to overdo things etc! The irony is, I was much more in need of that advice immediately before the heart attack; once the stents were in situ,I was back to my old normal, large as life and twice as ugly self
Steve
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I would get an appointment with your GP ,as I was advised by the cardiologist that it was most important to take the anti clotting med and the soluble aspirin, ,
The med I was given is Clopidogrel 75mg , and had to be taken for a minimum of 12months, as my body immune system could try to reject the stents and course the same problems with blocking the arteries again
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Nope, that purple, orange and blue traffic light looks perfect to me ...
Steve
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I think the difference is that flight crew have been "on terra firma" before the flight whereas the cruise crew have been, with passengers, on ship for a considerable time so more susceptible to any virus present. Cruises are notoriously prone to outbreaks of illness, it seems.
As far as flights are concerned just take sensible precautions before and during the flight.
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I take Clopidogrel, for blood thinning, instead of aspirin JVB. GP changed me over, as the aspirin, which was doing the same job, was causing stomach problems. I get few issues with the Clopidog, apparently aspirin is preferred as the Clopidog is much more expensive.
Sorry straying of topic. Apparently up to 273 cases now, it does not look as though we are going to escape this one.☹️
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My GP has checked the meds in consultation with the cardiologist and has left them unchanged. Clopidogrel was mentioned by the GP but not needed after talking to the cardiologist. I already have tablets to take each day, so avoiding number 7 seems quite good.
Steve
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We have 2 cottage breaks booked - I guess we will have to assume that previous guests have taken all necessary precautions and do the same ourselves. I've certainly got no intention of cancelling them unless and until we're advised not to travel.
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I was beginning to think the same Brue. I am sure people are as safe as they can be in their own caravan/motorhome but its when you want to get out and about. Our ability to walk longish distances is a bit limited so we like to be near towns and villages which is where the possible danger is. Personally I don't see a lot of point is going away for the sake of it if all you do is sit in the van, I have a nice comfortable home for that!!!
The daily increase in cases has been reasonably modest but at this stage we have no idea if that is hiding a much more serious degree of cases. I suppose we will know when the numbers are jumping in the hundreds, or indeed thousands each day.
David
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We're due to go to Dartmoor in a fortnight and the same thought has occurred to me, brue. Although from past experience, you don't meet many people once you've got on to the moor "proper", so we're still considering it.
As for our main holidays "over there", we held off booking that, as we were due to go to Greece for a week in May with friends. Hadn't booked Greece, as one of the friends developed back trouble and there was a possibility of an op before then. However, she's seen the specialist and that's not the case now, so in theory we are free to book that week to Greece, but now none of us feel like booking in the current circumstances.
All we can do is wait and see how things develop and take it from there.
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Devon and Cornwall aren't currently hot spots, Ina. There are a few cases in Torbay and 'somewhere' in Cornwall but all are in people who have recently returned from Italy.
We're doing our best to stay away from crowds but life has to go on.
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Thanks TW, yes, life has to go on, I agree. We too are doing our best to stay away from crowds, and being the wrong side of 60, the implications appear to be worse than for younger people.
At the moment, we're still intending to go, it's been a while since we went to Dartmoor, it's one of our favourite areas, we love walking on the moor.
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Lanzarote is so far free of it so possibly a good place to choose. There are quite a few of the 'older' folk currently here who are looking at renting for a couple of months to avoid going back to UK.
NTH, it was the aircrew and previous passengers that concerned me, airplanes are not cleaned on a 1 hr turn around. So I will be giving my table and armrests a good spray with teatree, hand sanitisers are easily bought here if needed though I did bring some with us.
According to one of the experts being out in the countryside is the best place to be as the virus will be absorbed by plantlife. Cities and large towns will always have more cases due to the close proximity of people.
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Still looking to get on the ferry this Wednesday, although Mrs WN getting worried as I'm in the vunerable category x3. However I'm still in it if I stay.
The only real worry, apart from actually catching the ruddy thing itself, is a lockdown like Italy. I've packed extra meds but hope the Spanish or French will sell me some if needed.
We will be based away from cities and avoid any crowd type environments but it's all down to luck, wherever you are. Might do quite a bit of hill walking, not too many others on them!
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I was reading on the BBC website an account from someone who subsequently tested positive after returning from Austria, close to the Italian border to Manchester airport and was surprised that there was no form of check whatsoever. One wonders if the 'powers that be' have really engaged brain.
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Don't know if this as been posted before but according to the Spanish news the town of Haro is know under lock down and it looks likely Aranjuez could be following shortly, I know quite a few of people on here use the sites in these towns as stop offs between the ferries and the costas.
Phil
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