Coronavirus Worries

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  • Pliers
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    edited March 2020 #212

    I’m sure if you’ve managed to drive your Motorhome to the inaccessible spot, a standard emergency ambulance would be able to do so likewise.

    Don’t worry!

    🙂

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #213

    If you have got there others coming to assist will also get there, as long as they have your correct locationsmile

  • brue
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    edited March 2020 #214

    Back down to basics, I dug some old hand sanitizer out of the van. Then looked on line to get some more and everywhere is sold out. frown

  • Freddy55
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    edited March 2020 #215

    Yes, I’ve been on the lookout too. Some...’enterprising’ sorts are selling it on eBay at vastly inflated prices yell

  • Pliers
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    edited March 2020 #216

    Soap and water is said to be more effective than hand sanitisers, and certainly don’t dry the skin out to the same extent.

    The sanitisers are certainly handy for when you don’t have access to soap and water though.

  • Freddy55
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    edited March 2020 #217

    The sanitisers are certainly handy for when you don’t have access to soap and water though.

    Yes, I want it for when we’re out and about, which I imagine is when one is at the greatest risk.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #218

    According to some reports,some are already panic buying and  hoarding supplies of everything , toilet rolls are  being bulk bought and are shortages  , in areas where there are cases of the,virussurprised 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #219

    Vinegar, doesn’t smell too good, won’t do your hands a great deal of good, but great for wiping down surfaces. Effective apparently against flu, so I’d give it a go. Disposable gloves for certain tasks as well. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2020 #220

    Working on this theory by this time tomorrow we will have 90 (or there about's) confirmed cases? 

    David

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2020 #221

    We all know about the transmission from other humans although there is some doubt how long people are infectious before symptoms start to show with one view that it could be as long as four weeks! You can sort of avoid other humans to a degree or at least pre plan your approach. What worries me a bit is how long the virus survives on surfaces. If often occurs to me that whilst I am busy washing my hands having used a public toilet I then have open the door, no doubt undoing all the good work of washing my hands. We were in IKEA yesterday and I noticed they had an antibacterial gel dispenser by the out door which I thought was a good idea. I just wish the the News wouldn't bang on about elderly people, supposedly 65 plus, being most at risk, especially those with underlying health issues, really cheers us up.

    David

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #222

    Public loos worry me as well. I always use a tissue/hand wipe to open doors to get out after hand washing , then bin it after exiting. 

    I have found selective news reading helps DK. There’s a lot of conjecture and misinformation out there. 

  • Freddy55
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    edited March 2020 #223

    I’m not sure I’d be worried about public loos in particular. It seems any surface could pose a risk? Even a shopping trolley?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #224

    It’s not Coronavirus I worry about on public loo door handles🤢

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  • Freddy55
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    edited March 2020 #226

    Ah right, gotcha...

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2020 #227

    why all the worries, summer is coming folk are off to warmer /sunnier climates, this is just a brief extract from what the boffins are saying

    ‘Sunlight will cut the virus’ ability to grow in half, so the half-life will be two-and-a-half minutes and in the dark it’s about 13–20 minutes. Sunlight is really good at killing viruses,’ he said.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #228

    From my reading that his hopeful speculation.

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2020 #229

    the eternal pessimist, yes there are some cases of coronavirus in warmer climates but places like Australia have not seen a new case in 2 weeks, which they think may be a combination of higher temperatures and good control. Why do you think flu is in the main a winter problem in the UK, and Covid-19 is a strain of flu

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    In regards to temperature, the virus can remain intact at 4⁰C or 10⁰C for a longer period of time. But at 30⁰C degrees then you get inactivation. And high humidity, the virus doesn’t like it either

    Basically, this is a severe form of the cold,’ he said.

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    you must be reading the red tops

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  • Rufs
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    edited March 2020 #231

    and me laughing

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #232

    you must be reading the red tops

    Thailand Medical News. https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/interesting-read-one-non-proven-speculation-about-the-coronavirus-that-many-hope-might-come-true

    News from yesterday. Australian coronavirus cases rise to 42, including doctor and ...www.theguardian.com › world › mar › australian-coronavirus-cases-ri...
    6 hours ago - There are now 42 confirmed coronavirus cases in Australia, including one death, prompting the federal government to tighten its travel

    Last count UK had 51 or so confirmed cases and Australia 42. Not surprising given connections with China. I am not particularly pessimistic

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2020 #233

    Our keyboards are reputed to have more bugs than a toilet seat, so wash your hands after reading this post. wink

  • BRENTRY1896
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    This should cheer you all up!

    It is not unreasonable to assume that about 25,000 people a day will be using Club sites very shortly, once they are all open. Most of these will be sharing the one and only toilet block, which will typically comprise of half a dozen toilet cubicles, and probably 4/5 shower cubicles. Those that bother to wash their hands will be sharing a couple of wash basins. All of this in a nice warm, humid atmosphere.

    Every day dozens of chemical toilets will be emptied in the same couple of outlets, some of which are indoors. Meanwhile, hundreds of hands will be clasping the waste water and drinking water taps. And, as already mentioned, barrier cards, washroom keys, site office door handles etc. will all be handled.

    Self isolating will be virtually impossible, even if your pitch is available for the required period, and if you are unfortunate enough to contract Coronavirus, would you be physically capable of towing your outfit home?

    When you consider all of the above, multiply it by many thousands more, including the "other club", plus all the thousands of commercial sites in the UK, and you potentially have what is possibly the worst case scenario for spreading the virus.

    Taking all the above into consideration, would anyone want to be in the business of buying and selling caravans and motorhomes right now?

    Happy camping!

     

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2020 #235

    Love it, but dont forget there are many on here that will claim they can use their own onboard facilities, but just how long does a toilet cassette last before you need to empty it, please dont answer this until i have had breakfastmoney-mouthbut look on the brightside 51 reported cases in the UK of which 11 have now fully recovered, and if you look at the current cases, a large number are from people returning from Italy or Japan. Lets hope it stays this waylaughing

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #236

    Could be a good idea if the site shops get stocked up on bio hazard suits then     ,and all other anti virus things that may be needed    , nice little earner for the wardens    ,with all the panic buying going on at the moment surprised

  • marchie1053
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    edited March 2020 #237

    Just been discussing Coronavirus risks with Elaine. Apart from all the 'usual suspects' sources mentioned in earlier posts, there is a risk of infection from handling banknotes in shops, supermarkets etc.

    Sales of hand sanitiser will be going through the roof.Might postpone travel plans and invest the cash in Proctor & Gamble or Lever Bros etc. ['Other sanitiser manufacturers are available but I cannot recall any names.]

    I'm a little sceptical about the warnings, but this dates back to my late father's demise. He saw the Government Safety Campaign to 'wear Something White at Night' [does this date me?] and went out wearing a White Anorak, white jeans, white trainers and a white woolly hat. He was run over by a snowplough.... tongue-out

    Steve

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2020 #238

    We are both in what is classed the high risk category. However, unless you are going to shut yourself away until August,  ( just reading that if it continues escalating, it will peak in 6 / 8 weeks then decline by August) it will be impossible to avoid all risk.  I think the best we can do is to practice good hygiene, and keep your distance from folk as much as possible. So visiting museums etc and cramming onto public transport are best avoided. Hopefully the border to Scotland is still open when we head that way in May.😀

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2020 #239

    If you look at the current figures you will find that mainland European countries have a higher number of confirmed cases than Britain, so perhaps that should be an indicator what to do

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2020 #240

    Hopefully the border to Scotland is still open when we head that way in May.

    hope you dont have to use that new hospital where patients are dying from inhaling a fungus from pigeon droppings

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2020 #241

    The meet and greet customs of us reserved British, are certainly less prone to spread the virus. I believe President M has asked them to stop kissing.