A ban on new petrol, diesel and hybrid cars
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Lets take an airport car park where EV cars are parked for the fortnight holiday in the sun, or business travellers parking for long periods. There are a known number of spaces, a known time occupied. During peak energy production from solar for example the stationary cars batteries are charged storing electrickery. When the sun goes down, tea time to cook dinner, brekkie in the morning the stored energy is used. Repeat daily, job done.
Office car parks, ditto during the working day.
Shopping centres, ditto.
Of course this is based on current use of vehicles. In the future we may not own, nor drive autonomous cars we call up at whim.
It ain't rocket science.
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Thanks for an interesting thread. Thinking about the future of existing ice vehicles I believe that these will carry on running until the infrastructure that they need fades away, as they get fewer garages will lose the skills to maintain them, petrol / diesel supplies will get scarce etc
With regards to 'new' technologies much of this has been around for years, fuel cells since 1839, but lacked the motivation to develop them, why invest in them when carbon based fuel was so cheap? What governments are doing by imposing deadlines is providing the motivation needed for business to invest, if Ford or GM don't have a viable alternative motor they will go out of business in 15 years.
There are also other 'disruptive' technologies out there which will appear in parallel, for example autonomous cars. Consider a world in which when you want a car you simply summon it and five minutes later it parks beside you, a small car, large car or tow car depending on what you call - you then pay a rental fee whilst you use it. When you arrive you simply send it away,. Being autonomous many of the cause of jams will disappear, and as the do away with reaction time the distance between cars decreases, so roads are used more efficiently.
Some of this might be pure science fiction, but my point is that we are looking ahead to a radically different world, bear in mind that it's only 40 years since computers really entered our lives and now we are all using technology we wouldn't have dreamt of just 10 years ago. I believe they way we move around is heading for a similar shake up after 140 years of stagnation.
Just my thoughts.....
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where will all the jobs come from as all the garage mechanics will be lost, driving schools will not be required as all driven by computers and no licence required. How will we pay for these hire cars if no wages coming in and how will the governments get there money if no taxes being payed, so will we end up with more poverty in the future due to jobs, no taxi driver, no bus drivers, no farmers as all the fields will be full of solar panels so we can charge the batteries. Going a bit deep here I know but it makes you think what will the world look like in say 50 years. Glad I will not be here to see it. Boring comes to mind.
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The Luddites asked the same questions in the 1800’s🤷🏻♂️. It all worked out in the end. Progress is needed, evolution will not be thwarted, I for one am excited by the progress, it won’t happen fast but it will happen.
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Well as life on earth is not sustainable, there will be a few steps backwards. World war springs to mind and we will start all over again where diesel and petrol cars will once again come to the fore, fortunately I will not be around to see it ...... maybe.
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A fair question, the same as faced by farming over the years, the arrival of computers, mechanisation etc etc etc, as some jobs go others seem to appear and have always done so. Electronics instead of mechanics (and cars will still have mechanical parts needing maintenance). No doubt we're heading for huge changes, and change is always uncomfortable, especially for those who resist it.
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Car designers are not looking at building electric cars that can tow caravans. This means our choice of tow car is going to be considerably restricted. Towing a caravan will dramatically reduce the distance you can travel and no-one will want to be towing while constantly worrying about battery level. Running out of battery power on a motorway, or side road for that matter, doesn't bare thinking about.
The rush to covert to electric vehicles will generate a massive amount of redundant perfectly good vehicles and create a huge amount of carbon during the production of the new vehicles that will be required.
To target cars is always an easy option, but did you know that worldwide only 15% of co2 comes from transportation.
The biggest polluter is Energy production, especially when countries like China are still building coal fired stations at an alarming rate.
Then comes agriculture, then industry, and following those sectors, comes transportation.
So if for example, we focused on eating less beef, we could do as much good with little effort than the billions of pounds that will need spent to install what can only be a stop gap solution to a part of a much bigger problem.
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Whilst the analysis of CO2 output is true the other factor is fossil fuel depletion. We need to cut back on the general use of fossil fuels because they are a diminishing source of energy supplies.
The only one sure thing is change.
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Strangely, it seems it’s only unlawful to park on the pavement in London. Elsewhere, it’s advisory not to do it. (Rule 244)
Highway Code rules prefixed by Must, Do Not etc in upper case are law. The others are not but you could still get done for obstruction.
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/parking.html
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No I haven't been to an African mine and I doubt many have been to a Chinese steel plant either but I would add that our EV is made from non conventional materials eg carbon fibre and the majority is recyclable including the batteries.
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agreed, my local council acknowledge that in some areas parking is very difficult so parking on the pavement is permitted provided you do not obstruct the pavement in such a way that pushchairs, mobility scooters etc are unable to pass.
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not at all, my area is one such area, i have a local school close by and certainly early morning and mid afternoon many mums/dads park on pavements whilst picking up children but this is tolerated without the need for signs, even outside of these times we do have some on pavement parking that is tolerated again without signage the only stipulation is that you do not park on or near drop down kerbs whether these be for road crossing (£1k fine for doing this) or peoples driveways.
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It’s a 'should not' rather than a 'must not' so it’s not law. Why else do you think so many people get away with it? As I said, they can still be done for obstruction if the circumstances warrant it.
See below but you make up your own mind.
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/parking-on-the-pavement/
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Not in my opinion, or the opinion of the RAC, unless Rufs is referring to London.
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as when most of this Garden City was built the roads were not made for todays vehicle ownership
