Service stopover
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"racetrack one way layouts and poorly located MHSP do nothing to speed upthe service process....."
I did ask up thread, BB, if that was any different at some of those "full fat" sites you've used over here. I mean, I've never used a Morris Leisure site, but from what I've seen of the pictures in their adverts, they look pretty much the same as club layouts to me.
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Not to say 'we will cater for the desires of a small section of the community who regularly do not use our, or other suitable sites for extended periods
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Hi juliette1073 and thank you so much for your feedback. I've forwarded this discussion to my colleagues in site operations who have advised that it is not Club policy to allow members, other than those actually staying on site, to use the facilities provided. The facilities are built to cater for the number of outfits for which the site is designed to accommodate and it is felt that if these were to be open to people not staying on site then in all probability the site would be overwhelmed to the detriment of the visitors who have paid the site fees.
I hope this helps answer your question and thank you again for your feedback.
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Thanks for confirming my memory, Rowena.
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The facilities are built to cater for the number of outfits for which the site is designed to accommodate and it is felt that if these were to be open to people not staying on site then in all probability the site would be overwhelmed to the detriment of the visitors who have paid the site fees.
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It would not matter at all in this particular decision, could be 100% MH or 100% caravans.
And occupancy rates? what does it matter, only those who have paid for a pitch can access those service points, simple isn't it?. And who accurately predict the occupancy rate for a certain date?
If you read Ro's post carefully it is all about those staying on site.
The ratio could affect number of service points and MHSP for those on site but not in allowing others to come on site.
You want to tour that way, then it is your problem to find a way of doing it rather than selfishly expecting the club to change the way in which a huge number use it, and I assume as they keep coining back, like it.
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Why are you disappointed? You don't use club sites now, yet you want to use them for this service alone as it suits you in this one case? You don't mind others being inconvenienced as long as you are getting cheaper services?
Or would you start to use club sites if this was allowed? Btw do you do wild camping?
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Your usual aggressive self, eh Corners. The policy does not bother me in the slightest. It is disappointing that the C&MC doesn't want to extend its facilitiies to passing Members but there is the other Club which along with CLs and CSs seems to be getting more and more of my business of late.
By wild camping I assume you mean unauthorised places. It is not something I do but I do occasionally park up in places without any facilities.
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thanks, I didn't realise that asking you questions was being aggressive? Yes I forgot that you always think of, and answer for, others in your posts.
As you said choice is good isn't it? If all sites were the same as the club you would be truly stuck.
PS didn't get your answer on:
Or would you start to use club sites if this was allowed?
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Content self removed by CS after BB's comment had been removed.
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sorry PD but that is not how it works, you post and people can question you about it?
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Thanks Rowena for posting - good to have HO response. Good to know the club policy remains the same.
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This news is very reassuring indeed. The ability to pay and stay just that one night on all club sites in our touring units, and use all the facilities, is a real bonus. This is not the case with all of the competitors out there, some who stipulate anything from two, three nights or even full week minimum stays. Long may this continue, yes of course you pay for that privilege but for several who do wild camp occasionally that one night stay on site now and again is worth it I'm sure.
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A lot of club sites are in locations that are not particularly "MH friendly" being situated some distance from destinations and often lacking much in the way of public transport links. This is one of the reasons that club sites are not always a 'first choice'. MHomers do, however, hope for access to some of the facilities provided as in a "dump and fill". If I want to buy a rucksack, I don't want to pay out for a pair of trek poles as well just because it's "the whole package" or nothing. Why cannot people understand that there is a reluctance to pay for a pitch in what is perceived as the "wrong place" when all they want is to empty and fill tanks before moving on?
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I’ve been out for hours since Ro posted and I’m quite surprised to see all the posts in support of the club's position after we'd been led to believe change was needed, would work and no congestion or inconvenience would occur. Perhaps the cons some of us pointed out were not so wide of the mark after all. I'm guessing the Deleted User post wasn’t supportive of the club.
It would be nice to hear from the OP again.
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I guess you haven’t seen Ro's post, CY.
"Why cannot people understand…" I find that rather insulting and I’d not dream of asking you a question in those terms.
Are you sure this club is still right for you?
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there is a reluctance to pay for a pitch in what is perceived as the "wrong place" when all they want is to empty and fill tanks before moving on?
Maybe, just maybe, the motor caravanners should look to this "right place" for the provision of their waste dump . . . ?
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A lot of club sites are in locations that are not particularly "MH friendly" being situated some distance from destinations and often lacking much in the way of public transport links.
Then simply don't use them if they don't suit. Some MH owners do because they are either happy to use them arriving in afternoon and moving next day or they are happy to use their MH to go out in the day. Those that want to leave Motorhomes on site and use public transport choose sites accordingly. There are different limitation between caravans and motorhomes. You choose one or the other and live with your choice and ideally holiday accordingly.
There is no need to pay for a pitch in the wrong place. Find one in the right place that meets your needs.
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The "wrong place?"is it seems ,to be in mindset of some motor caravanners, but of course with our go almost anywhere support vehicle with us at all times, no site for us anyway, is in the wrong place for trailer caravan users
And for responsible motor caravan owners the destination would have the facilities to service their vehicle
With the club's clarification of the Op Question then for a few motor caravan owners sites in the "wrong place?" will forever be such
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I don't get this wrong place for motor caravaners thing. Places are where individuals want to be for a whole variety of reasons. I've never been to a wrongly placed site. It's a bit like that 'good for families' label, many of the sites labelled as such were the very ones our family would avoid like the plague but I can understand how others might like them. We all tour in different ways and for different reasons. Why, because we are all different. Different providers providing different products is surely a positive thing.
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If you go to Sainsbury's now you will see piles of Easter Eggs. Each pile has a big show card with the message "Easter Eggs" and the price. The by-line on the showcard is "Good for Easter".
Now what else might they be used for? Rugger perhaps?
Just like the captions of the caravan Club that might as well state "Good for Caravans" as well as the obvious other things they list. And they claim there is no space in the handbook for NGRs.
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But presumably you knew that when you switched from a caravan to a MH recently, CY? Or did you expect things to change overnight?
One of the good things to come out of this thread though, from a MHers point of view is the fact that there are any number of alternatives out there which appear to fulfil the requirements a small number of MHers are asking for.
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Very rude.
Well we've had the, in my view ridiculous, notion that club site are in the 'wrong place' but that aside, if anyone thinks they are in the wrong place or not MH friendly then there is good news, get this - no one is forced to stay at one!
Simply find a site that is in the right place or MH friendly and use that, ie change your behaviour rather than expect the club to change for you
But strangely enough a lot of motorhomers do turn up on club sites.
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Afraid I don’t get the Club Sites in wrong locations thing either. If it’s somewhere like Nunnykirk, quite a way from a town, one bus a week, then just use the Motorhome for getting out and about, that’s what it is for! If it’s somewhere like YRP, park up and walk. Both are great locations and give a choice. Club Sites are what they are, where they are, and come in some great variety. If the Club lost some of the sites in beautiful, quiet locations, such as North York Moors, or Clumber Park, or Godrevy, or Marazion, or St Agnes then I doubt we would stay members. Not everyone wants to stay in a city or a town.🙂
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If I want to buy a rucksack, I don't want to pay out for a pair of trek poles as well just because it's "the whole package" or nothing.
My advice CY is if the shop only sells as a package that you don't want then shop elsewhere. I shop at ASDA for some things and Lidl for others so that I can buy what I want rather than what each sells
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