Service stopover

juliette1073
juliette1073 Forum Participant Posts: 11
edited April 2019 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I was wondering how many members would like the club to start doing service stopover, is pay a small amount and be able to fill your motorhome with water and empty the toilet.

After just doing the west coast 500 in Scotland, we found that there were lots of lovely free overnight parking stops, but very few places to get water or toilet. Most people buy a motorhome to give us the ability to stop any where suitable, and were all self contained.

I think the club should offer this service to its members. 

I'd love to hear what you think ?

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #2

    I'd love to hear what you think ?

    I think that they do offer the service Julliete. It is provided when you book a pitch. CLs offer it also. 

    Most people buy a motorhome to give us the ability to stop any where suitable, and were all self contained,

    But it is not most that choose to wild camp and in tour case you appear to be self contained but far from self reliant. 

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #3

    Mmmm....."deja vu all over again"! wink

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2019 #4

    Juiliette

    I am not sure why you posted this in the Story Section as clearly you wished to start a debate?

    This subject has been covered many times on this forum. The Club run a network of campsites. It is entirely up to members whether they make use of the network. You could always arrange to spend the odd night on a Club site where you would be able to achieve what you have asked in your question. 

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #5

    "Most people buy a motorhome to give us the ability to stop any where suitable, and were all self contained."

    That’s rather a sweeping statement. Give me a proper site any day and they even exist around the NC500 route.

    The club has said in one of the numerous discussions on this subject that it does not intend to offer the facility for a variety of reasons.

    You could join C&CC, Juliette, as they offer the service you want. It costs around £7 for 3 hours use of facilities.

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2019 #6

    "but very few places to get water or toilet. Most people buy a motorhome to give us the ability to stop any where suitable, and were all self contained".

    So ,if there was no water or toilet then the place was not suitable 

  • peedee
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    edited April 2019 #7

    You could join C&CC, Juliette, as they offer the service you want. It costs around £7 for 3 hours use of facilities

    At  the prices sites are charging, £7 Is starting to look attractive.

    peedee

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #8

    £7-ish for 3 hours equates to around £55-£60 for 24 hours. It’s actually a very high hourly rate for a few gallons of water, use of the drains and CCEP, and perhaps a shower. It’s much better value to stay the night.

    Sango Sands, for instance, on the NC500 seems to be charging £22 p/n this year for 2 people and EHU. No extra for showers, water etc.

  • juliette1073
    juliette1073 Forum Participant Posts: 11
    edited April 2019 #9

    Personally I'd rather be camped up by the side of a loch or some other amazingly scenic place than on a site surrounded by other people. The club would be doing local residents and motorhomers alike a real service to offer their members this service .

    As we can see, everyone is different, and want different things from their holiday. 

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #10

    It’s actually a very high hourly rate for a few gallons of water, use of the drains and CCEP, and perhaps a shower. It’s much better value to stay the night.

    Depends how you look at it TW. A non-facility site for two is (say) about £15 and a facility site perhaps £24 so you could say that costs us £9 a day to use the facilities. We don't spend 3 hours a day emptying waste and toilet, taking on water, showering etc or clothes washing. So £7 a day sounds fair to me ........ but not on CC sites please. laughing

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #12

    How would the club be doing a service for its site owners and the local resident though? As far as I can see they would just be facilitating wild campers in the area.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #13

    Would that be the same residents who complain about the behaviour of MH-ers wild camping around the NC500? 

    As for camping in scenic places, have you checked the sites at Sango Sands, Scourie, Ardmair and, of course, the club sites at Dunnet Bay and Bunree, to name a few? Then there are CLs…

    Sorry but we're not going to agree on this and, living where I do, I have sympathy for the Scottish folk.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #14

    Would that be the same residents who complain about the behaviour of MH-ers wild camping around the NC500? 

    The very same TW and look at the benefits it would bring to them laughing

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2019 #15

    The trouble is, it a growing trend and very soon the numbers wanting to camp by the side of the loch, end up spoiling the very thing you are going there to experience. This almost certainly will necessitate controls on the 500 similar to those around Loch Lomond. It worked OK in the 1970's when we used a hired VW camper and car and two man tent to explore the area. Unfortunately, in recent years, the area has just become too popular.

  • rayjsj
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    edited April 2019 #16

    Easy T , have you ever toured the West and far North of Scotland let alone the Hebrides ?

    There are vast areas without even a shop and not very many CLs ,I have stayed on a couple near Lochinver and Cape Wrath, a water source and a proper place to empty a cassette would be doing locals a great service as well as the now fairly busy route called the 'NC500' which isnt very well provided with 'official service points' , Sango Sands is one and Dunnett Bay is another but not many others until Brora , way down the coast. I sympathise with Juliette 1073.

    Loch Lomond suffered because it is too easy to get to from Glasgow and Edinburgh and was becoming a magnet for drunken weekend Fishing/camping trips who left the area strewn with their dumped rubbish.

    Proper Motorhomers and Caravanners are not that uncaring of their surroundings.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #18

    But for £22 you can enjoy the view for 24 hrs, use the facilities at any time you choose and, if you go out on foot, there are staff to keep an eye on things and no one is going to nick your space if you drive to the MHSP. I think £22 is very reasonable compared to other sites and considering it’s in a tourist boom area. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #19

    I listed more sites than that without thinking about it too hard, Ray.

    The Hebrides is surprisingly well served for sites and emptying points these days as are Orkney and, especially, Shetland.

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2019 #20

    I'm sure I've read of problems with wild camping, even over there. Although I was commenting on the situation in the NW of Scotland in the UK section.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #21

    I have toured the West and far North of Scotland although I see no relevance regarding CC sites supplying a facility to wild campers Ray

    If there is a club site they can be used for a night as can any site. Then several nights in the wild. Limiting factor? Probably cassette emptying, solution - carry a second.

    Meanwhile explain how the club providing service would benefit both local residents and the majority of existing club members

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #22

    I am sure you have Steve - I have

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #24

    Well, I never expected that you’d share my view and you haven’t disappointed. 😁

    I wonder which method the local communities would prefer.🤔

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #26

    😂😂😂

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2019 #27

    What the original poster was suggesting seems to be close to the inverse of motor caravans parked on full service pitches.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #28

    As part of my morning walk (before the lazier ones are up) I go up past the dog walk which comes out on a series of Forrest roads. I follow one to the main road then back to the site. Along the road literally a few minutes walk from the site entrance is an area that usually had a MH on it. Last Monday the farmer/owner was fixing the fence posts near it. He was quite friendly and when he found out I was at the site he said that he wished MH wouldn't park there as they just empty their waste (water and other stuff) at the back of this area.

    Now do you think these would pay to use the club site to empty their waste?

    And why would the club want to associate itself with such behaviour? 

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2019 #29

    (before the lazier ones are up)

    who are you to suggest what time others should be up? 😠

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #30

    Husband and father perhaps?undecided

    Who are you to suggest I can't call them that?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2019 #31

     ... and in English please 🤔