Travelling after Brexit

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  • Justus2
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    edited February 2019 #92

    I think the whole point of the video was to demonstrate peoples lack of understanding of the implications of leaving the EU....reciprocal healthcare being one, limitations to pet travel being another and limitations too as to freedom of movement and staying in Spain for more than 90 days being the final one... A total shock to them, especially the last interviewee, who admitted he bought a property in Spain for intended extended holidays just after he voted leave. surprised 

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2019 #93

    agreed, have a daughter who has lived and taught in Spain for the last 10 years, although she is now a Spanish resident and pays taxes in Spain so is entitled to normal Spanish benifits, on talking to retired expats in her area you get the sense that many are quite oblvious to what the consequences of brexit may be, 700 euros per month for perscription drugs, wow!!!,

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2019 #94

    Since these costs are covered on a reciprocal basis, I'm a bit puzzled as to how this is going to change significantly. Should they stop altogether, we may find a repatriation of many with complex medical needs with a consequent impact on the NHS. We are, however, straying into political territory here.

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  • SeasideBill
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    edited February 2019 #96

    I’ve just wasted my first bit of cash on this Brexit nonsense in the form of International Driving Permits - £11 for 2 + £6 for photos.

    However, having got them home I can’t see any way of identifying which is version 1949 (Spain) and 1967 (France etc). They aren’t identical but still can’t figure which is which. Can anybody enlighten me?

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  • SeasideBill
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    edited February 2019 #99

    Thanks David, I see that now. Sometimes you just can’t see for looking - getting old I think! wink

    Yes,I noted the expiry differences. Just to add insult to injury the 1968 version would have been valid for 3 years, but my driving licence expires early next year, so I get to do it all again in less than 12 months! Is this the new promised land post Brexit?

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2019 #101

    My UK licence is up for renewal in December, so I'm hanging fire atm in the hope that I shan't have to get one that will be short term. It would be galling to get one that runs out at the end of the year only to find I didn't need it after all.

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2019 #102

    more galing when you are behind the queue of millions trying to get one and the PO has run out, all for the sake of a fiver undecided

  • Oneputt
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    edited February 2019 #103

    Why would you think that  in November/December you will be in a queue of millions?  We are going over there in July so I will wait and see what happens on March 29th.  If I can't get sorted by June then I'll spend my 'over there' budget by flying to Gibraltar for a week then have 3 weeks touring England.  

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  • Lutz
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    Who says that although Spain signed the 1949 convention and not the 1968 one, that the 1968 version of an international driving permit is not accepted in Spain? I can only find a spurious note suggesting that is the case from a UK government website, but I rather suspect that whoever put that information together was just trying to be clever as outside the UK only one version is issued - usually the 1968 one.

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2019 #106

    Lutz, you could well be correct, but for £5.50 i would rather purchase than possibly incur the wrath of the Spanish police 

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  • Oneputt
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    edited February 2019 #109

    Think of all the wasted money if we leave with a deal and 2 year transition deal or we stay in.  I prefer to stay relaxed and save my money🌞

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  • Metheven
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    edited February 2019 #111

    Fully agree, we are travelling the third week of April and have spent money that may not be needed but hopefully will put us in good stead for the various outcomes regarding Brexit.

    I would certainly be more laid back if I had much longer than the 3 weeks after Brexit.

  • InaD
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    edited February 2019 #112

    +1.  In our case, we're not booked to go 'over there' until the second half of May, so can afford to wait and see.  But as is the case with a few of the previous posters, OH's driving licence runs out at the end of September, so the 3-year IDP would only last him a few months.  

    Rather annoying, but, at the cost of £5.50, not enough to worry about.  If we end up having to buy IDPs after the 29th of March, then so be it.

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2019 #113

    leaving 26th March so technically we can depart under existing regulations so have to do nothing, and we did that so that we can get the dog out, it is what happens whilst we are away that is the worry, we are not scheduled to return until 27th Jun, so have crossed all the T's & dotted all the i's as best we can, even ordered greater than 12 mtr boards although we are border line, just in case, dont want to upset the Spanish policeundecided

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  • Kontikiboy
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    edited February 2019 #115

    Hi Seaside Bill

    on the front cover you will see Convention dates:

    1949=Spain

    1968=Rest of EU

    it took me a while to see theses as well.

     

    FOR ALL:

    I have just purchased the 2 IDPs needed for France and Spain.   The French one, 1968, includes diagrams of the various vehicles and includes both C and C1.     However, the Spain one, 1949, only shows the classes by text and only has C, not C1.    The text explains that the C box needs to be stamped if you want to be legal driving a vehicle over 3500kgms.

    I Drive a 4250 kgms MH and need a C1 licence to drive it, but The Post Office instructions to staff state that if you do not have a C class licence they should not stamp the C box.   My C box is therefore not stamped.

    I therefore think that my 1949 IDP is inadequate for my needs.  I have written to the Post Office via their web site so watch this space.

    BillC

     

     

     

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2019 #116

    well they stamped mine , but my counter staff did not know what they were doing so just put stamp where I instructed them to put it, would not worry too much, Lutz somewhere on here thinks we only need 1968 version and that UK gov information may be incorrect, but as i said earlier most of the police out there will not have seen an IDP so will probably not look further than front cover, We are off 26th Mar and pretty much following your route via Poole Nantes etc, will eventually stop for 6 weeks in Mazarron, daughter lives and works close by so looking forward to itlaughing

  • Lutz
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    edited February 2019 #117

    Frankly I don't understand how anything other than the 1968 version can be issued in the UK because the UK only signed the 1968 agreement, not any earlier ones.

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2019 #118

    this will be only one of the many Brexit anomoliesundecided

  • Kontikiboy
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    edited February 2019 #119

    I got a swift reply from the Post Office HQ and they said the C box should have been stamped.   So, just been back and had it done.  Good job I didn’t live miles away!

    BillC

  • Kontikiboy
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    edited February 2019 #120

    I think Lutz is correct.    See this extract below:

    The Vienna Convention on Road Traffic was concluded at Vienna on 8 November 1968. Since its entry into force on 21 May 1977, in signatory countries ("Contracting Parties") it replaces previous road traffic conventions, notably the 1949 Geneva Convention on Road Traffic, in accordance with Article 48 of the Convention.

    Vienna Convention on Road Traffic - Wikipedia

    if you take a look at Wiki, you will see that Spain is a Contracting Party to the 1968 Convention.

    how could the Gov and DVLA, in particular, get it so wrong.    All issuing authorities are pratting around with multiple versions when one will do.

    BillC

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