Deposits

PITCHTOCLOSE
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edited December 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Director general view "focus for 2019 will be to make further improvements and changes, taking into account member feed back" is this a pre warning of deposits.👍

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2018 #2

    It could mean anything at all. Perhaps improved dog walks, MHSPs available to non-stayers, families pitching together… I could go on and on. Why automatically think of deposits?

  • peedee
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    edited December 2018 #3

    Judging by the AGM minutes it unfortunately means more serviced pitches. For me the Club is moving in the wrong direction and if money was an issue, I would definitely give up my membership at the next renewal. As it is, it all depends on how much use I can make of its services during 2020.  This seems to be less and less with each passing year.

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2018 #4

    Are you going to miss out 2019 then thats quite a long time to be "over there"

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #5

    Praise the Lord not a new logo!

  • peedee
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    edited December 2018 #6

    Oops jumped a year but still probably true because it takes a long time for the Club to make changes to judge them on.

    peedee

     

  • DaveandVicki
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    edited December 2018 #7

    Close !!

    We are going back to the old name and logo.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #8

     Have Walls taken out an injunction?

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2018 #9

    Which member's viewpoint is it that they will take into account?

    One way or the other what would constitute a majority worthy of change and how could that be determined? wink Oh no, we already have the 'B word' and now possibly the 'D word'.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #10

    Probably the same mythical members that were 'confused' by the booking hard standings trial (sic).

    If the club really wished to know members views they would issue a simple yes/no questionnaire regarding any changes ...... they don't.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited December 2018 #11

    They don't want to be doing that....look where the last Yes/No referendum has go to!!surprised

  • GTP
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    edited December 2018 #12

    taking into account member feed back"

    nobody asked me...

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2018 #13

    Asked you about what, though?

    There have been various surveys on differing topics, such as the magazine, and it’s only Hooker’s thoughts that the comment refers to deposits. It could be about anything but the OP picked on an issue guaranteed to promote discussion. 

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited December 2018 #14

    Still waiting on Rowena, deposits or no deposits that is the question, just a simple no would suffice and not some fuzzy response or waffle.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2018 #15

    Try emailing her, Hooker.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2018 #16

    Did i mention "some" deposits a while back,when in conversation with "others?" difficult for next year now though,with as per the DGs comments about advance booking figures for 2019surprised

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2018 #17

    the things is due to the non replies:

    a) she doesn't know and can't tell

    b) she knows and can't tell

    c) been told not to respond to any questions about new developments

    c) can't be bother to answer

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2018 #18

    d)  knows it’s a poster on a wind-up. surprised

  • JollyKernow
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    edited December 2018 #19

    4 out of 5?winkwink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2018 #20

    yes missed that one

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2018 #21

    smile

  • chasncath
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    edited December 2018 #22

    Ah! If it's Members' feedback then who are those who fed back? On the other hand, were it Member's feedback or viewpoint, who was that solitary privileged member?

  • Goldie146
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    edited December 2018 #23

     Did you not get an email after a stay on a CAMC site, asking about your stay? We did.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2018 #24

    We have had many site surveys this year which I assume is what you mean where you are able to go into more detail about a whole series of things? Funnily enough we didn't get one for the last site we stayed at, Warwick Racecourse, nor sure why but perhaps because of the limited opportunities do much about the site? Having said all that they don't ask specifically about deposits but of course members are able to add their own views and perhaps a lot are demanding deposits? 

    David

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #25

    And perhaps they are not. Who knows?

  • peedee
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    edited December 2018 #26

    I think the Club randomly selects a number of mermbers for a general survey about the Club. I had one this year, meant to keep a copy but forgot and as a consequence I have forgotten the questions and how I replied. Pretty sure I did not mention deposits (I tend to fill them in too quickly with perhaps not enough thought) but if asked again I most certainly would be suggesting them.

    peedee

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  • rutlandwarrior
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    edited December 2018 #28

    But your not paying anything extra it comes off total price of stay

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  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #30

    I don't mind at all David. This year I paid £260 in deposits to C&CC and non club sites. I also paid £108 in full for one site that I wanted. A total of £368. 

    If there was a minimum booking charge of £25 and charges similar to C&CC I would have paid a further £375. That would have been a total of about £740.

    If I look back at 2015 the pattern was a higher proportion of club sites that would indeed probably have amounted to £550 deposits if in line with the other club plus around £120 for commercial site bookings. 

    Deposits would not have made any difference to my usage. It might affect those with families wishing to book however who might have tighter finances. If CC were to go down this route I would hope that they would provide for a reasonable cancellation period. 

    Deposits will not solve any problems of lack of weekend availability. I live on an estate of probably 1000 bungalows and dormer extensions on some. When I moved here 30 years ago I drove round the estate and ours was one of only two caravans evident. Now I regularly see or drive past about 300 of these properties and I know that there are more than 7 caravans or motorhomes just in these. In general whether you tour, go away for a week and include weekends at each side or are a weekender you are in the majority and want weekends. Deposits will not free these up. 

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2018 #31

    The trouble with that is who does the Club listen to? Personally I think they should listen to everyone but if the see a pattern evolving where when commenting on a stay at a Club site in one of these site surveys they mention how much difficulty they have had booking the site in the first place or had difficulty getting the length of stay these could be the members mentioning deposits. Given that we have not had a robust denial that deposits are on the table, as we have had in the past, we are still no further forward in whether they will become a reality?

    David